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Old March 28, 2012, 09:05 AM   #1
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slugs or buckshot for bear or hog?

i just bought a pardner protector, and will be using it for home defense as well as a camping (hiking) gun. what would be the best for it in case i run up on a bear that decides to take me out? i'm gonna load buck shot for the home but don't know which would be best for bear. i live in kentucky and coyoties will be my major threat but those black bears sightings are starting to happen more often as well as wild hogs, so i waNT TO BE PREPARED. thanks
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Old March 28, 2012, 09:18 AM   #2
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either would be fine, although i would keep a few slugs handy. I dont think you are in much danger here in ky though.
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Old March 28, 2012, 09:26 AM   #3
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i do believe coyoties will be my main threat but you never know, i didn't even know wild hogs were near me till this last deer season. a guy just 15 miles from my home was deer hunting and was forced to kill one that charged him. it weighed 394lbs, now thats pretty big for a hog in kentucky and i thought they were only in the east.
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Old March 28, 2012, 10:21 AM   #4
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Slugs, no doubt about it.
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Old March 28, 2012, 10:23 AM   #5
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I'd really hate to **** off a decent sized bear with buckshot. I would go with slugs.
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Old March 28, 2012, 10:49 AM   #6
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If the bear is supposed to have a bad day you load with slugs. If you want you and the bear to have a bad day use buckshot.
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Old March 28, 2012, 12:27 PM   #7
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"If the bear is supposed to have a bad day you load with slugs. If you want you and the bear to have a bad day use buckshot."

LMFAO
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Old March 28, 2012, 12:35 PM   #8
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Quite a few threads on this issue here and other places. Buckshot lacks penetration, sectional density and is essentially equal to a .380 shooting nine shots all at once. If that is what you want against a bear, go for it, but not my cup of tea so to say. Slugs all the way.
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Old March 28, 2012, 12:41 PM   #9
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3 in. magnum slug.....no buck for bear!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old March 28, 2012, 01:06 PM   #10
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Slugs....
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Old March 28, 2012, 01:26 PM   #11
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Old March 28, 2012, 01:41 PM   #12
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Slugs no doubt and yes I would probably go with 3" Magnums I have to agree with model18
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Old March 29, 2012, 11:41 PM   #13
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I don't care what anyone tells you buckshot will not work effectively on bear. Period. I have personal experience with this. I (in my less experienced days) have personally shot a 300 lbs black bear in the vitals from 25 yards with 3" mag hardened 00 buck and it didn't even phase him. Absolutely use slug. And not all slugs are created equal either. The cheap federal or remington expanding slugs you buy from your local gun shop for deer hunting are nowhere near the level of effective as brenneke black magic magnums.
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Old March 30, 2012, 05:49 AM   #14
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slugs unless you like to have people see how you look in used jam piles.
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Old March 30, 2012, 10:06 AM   #15
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The plus side of having buckshot is that it comes with a free obituary!
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Old March 30, 2012, 12:43 PM   #16
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First one 00 the rest slugs. Better to hit with 00 than miss with a slug. This was the configuration I used as a salmon fishing guide in Alaska. Sometimes a double 10ga with 1 of each.

Also carried .44 with the front sights filed off.
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Old March 31, 2012, 03:18 PM   #17
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...or bear pepper spray. There's an old thread somewhere on here where we talked about bears and slugs vs bear specific pepper spray. Yes it's dog the bounty hunter cannister style mace.

Depends if you're hunting, or defense
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Old April 1, 2012, 01:19 AM   #18
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sluuuugs! sure 00 has 9 pellets but whose to say all of those are gonna hit the bear depending on how far away your shooting from and they dont have the penetration youll need for a tough skinned bear imho
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Old April 1, 2012, 01:29 PM   #19
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slugs, the ones with shells.....no not those slugs....no i dont have salt.....
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Old April 1, 2012, 02:45 PM   #20
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Now I of course will agree slugs are best for the bear, but cmon guys some of you are making it seem like 00 Buck is basically throwing a rock at the bear.

My Mossberg 930SPX is modified to be NJ legal, so instead of the factory +3 Choate extension it has a +1 on it, making it 5+1 instead of 7+1. I almost always have it loaded with Hornady TAP FPD 2 3/4" 00 Buck. I *AGREE* I would be better hitting a bear with a slug than a round of 00 Buck, however, I am REALLY Confident that if I shoot the bear with 6 rounds of Hornady TAP FPD 00 Buck it's going to at the very least stop and most likely die in its tracks.

Also, I do agree, if you shoot the slug and MISS you not only are in big trouble, you might have to deal with the ramifications of where and what that slug did, if u live the encouter with the bear.
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Old April 1, 2012, 02:48 PM   #21
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Brenake slug, if you can't get a Dixie slug.
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Old April 1, 2012, 02:55 PM   #22
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You cant argue the effectiveness of buckshot on bear without having actually used it on a real bear. Yeah maybe 8 rounds of buckshot will stop or mutilate a bear but the average number of shots someone gets off during a bear charge is 1 to 2. The bear isn't going to sit there and let you unload 7 or 8 rounds into it. Like I said before I've shot a bear broadside in the vitals with hardened magnum 00 and it only made him flinch. I wouldn't be willing to take that risk again. Also people have this idea that if they're loaded with buck they can just point and shoot and they'll hit anything and everything in the general area they're aiming at. You still have to be a good shot to be effective with buck.
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Old April 1, 2012, 03:10 PM   #23
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I don't think you will have a human threat problem with coyotes unless it is rabid. Either would work on them. I have killed one with # 6 shot but it was close range and not attacking me. I agree with slugs for bear and/or wild hogs.
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Old April 1, 2012, 03:11 PM   #24
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"but cmon guys some of you are making it seem like 00 Buck is basically throwing a rock at the bear."

That's correct. A tiny handful of little rocks.
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Old April 1, 2012, 03:17 PM   #25
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While buckshot is just fine for erect bipeds or more slightly built game like deer at short ranges, the extra penetration needed with bears and feral hogs due to their bone structure and anatomy calls for slugs. While a foster slug might work OK, my preference would be for a harder slug like a Brenneke Black Magic Magnum.
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