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Old March 14, 2012, 02:50 PM   #1
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which bullet you like best 9mm

between
1.Rainier LeadSafe Bullets 9mm (355 Diameter) 124 Grain Plated Hollow Point
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2. Barry's 124 grain hp
which do you like best.
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Old March 14, 2012, 03:22 PM   #2
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Berry's

I loaded 5,000 of them during the Christmas holidays. Down to my last 300 now. They are uniform, affordable and accurate.

The Rainiers are good bullets too, but I haven't seen anything better about them than the Berrys and the Berrys are cheaper everywhere I've found them.

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Old March 14, 2012, 03:22 PM   #3
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Of the two you've selected ...I like the Berry's a lot more ...because they're more consistent in terms of variation ( + - 0.3 grain or so ) ...where Rainier has a tendancy to vary a lot more ...( + - 0.8 grain or so ) ....

The variation has to do with how they process the bullets in their plating process...and how thick it is / etc...

Neither bullet - will be as consistent as a true jacketed bullet ...like Montana Gold ...but Montana gold is a little more expensive too.

For Rainier ...they tell you to use mid range .... "lead bullet data" ....
..for Berry's they tell you to use jacketed data - but don't push them over 1200 fps.
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Old March 14, 2012, 03:31 PM   #4
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The one I get the cheapest.

With my shooting I can not tell a differance. Though I can tell the differance when I open my wallet.
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Old March 14, 2012, 03:32 PM   #5
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Jim or M&P45 or anyone,

Not to hijack the thread, but do you find Montana Gold worth the difference in price when compared to Berrys or Rainier?

I've used Berrys for years and all told probably loaded close to 50,000 of them since 2008, but as I calculated it this morning, buying in volume [1 "case" of MG = 4,000 bullets] the difference between plated and Montana Gold is only about $25 right now. I've never used the Montana Gold bullets, but at that price they seem like a deal.

What do you think?
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Old March 14, 2012, 07:46 PM   #6
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im just loading this for me and my sone to target shot with. i have just ordered some berrys and going to try them out. i have to check into the MG bullets.
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Old March 15, 2012, 12:07 AM   #7
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Neither.

I like Berry's 124 gr HBRN-TP even better. The hollow base extends the bearing surface and better expands the base to seal with the barrel for more consistent chamber pressures. Thicker plating is good to 1450 fps. It's more accurate than my reference Winchester FMJ load. It's $88/1000 including free shipping from TJ Conevera's. It's also available in 115 gr HBRN-TP.

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Old March 15, 2012, 11:11 AM   #8
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I like the Berry's HBRN bullets in 9mm and 45 acp both. Nothing but good things to say about them.
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Old March 15, 2012, 11:34 AM   #9
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Lee 356-120-TC, cast lead, truncated cone.
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Old March 15, 2012, 06:29 PM   #10
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Berry's
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Old March 16, 2012, 12:14 AM   #11
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147 grain Montana Gold.

if you can get some reloading or competition friends together you can go through Manny Bragg to get a 6 case price discount on the Montana Gold bullets.

http://www.mannyusa.com/
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Old March 16, 2012, 02:38 AM   #12
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I really like Berry's but NOT the 124 gr HP. It is along, blunt bullet that has to be seated way deeper than any other bullet I've used (like 1.070" COL). That throws off the data from loading tables.

Any other Berry's bullet I like much better than Rainier as it is thicker plating. Rainier just seems too soft to me.
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Old March 17, 2012, 06:21 AM   #13
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based on goal

For the vast majority on my 9x19 shooting I much prefer Penn Bullets 125g LRN.
Between the Berrys and Rainier 124g PHP I prefer the Rainier.
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Old March 17, 2012, 09:20 AM   #14
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I have shot three cases of Montana Gold 9mm 124gr HP, and two cases of .40 165FP. Love em'!!!
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Old March 17, 2012, 09:44 AM   #15
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Got to go with the Berry's; however, I like the hollow on the other end of the bullet. Pleased with both the 124 HBFP and the 124 HBRN-TP.
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Old March 17, 2012, 11:44 AM   #16
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The only bullets I load are Berry's. 9mm and .45 ACP
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Old March 17, 2012, 05:59 PM   #17
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Rainier makes a very accurate bullet. I've used them in many calibers. I've been very satisfied with Berry's too. I've been shooting a lot of their hollow base bullets like the 124 HBFP-TP and the 124 HBRN-TP. My CZ likes the 124 HBFP-TP and Winchester hollow base 115 FMJ's.

It will be luck of the draw as far as which one your gun likes more.
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Old November 2, 2013, 04:25 PM   #18
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Awakening an old thread...
Also not to hijack but what do you think of Nosler 124gr bullets. I'm just starting out reloading, and supply was limited so I went by name even though they seemed pricey. Going forward when I buy in volume, what do you think of these? Versus some others that you'd recommend? Mostly for range use and potential HD/SD.
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Old November 2, 2013, 09:32 PM   #19
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Plated, Rocky Mountain Reloading 124Gr flatnose.
Lead, Friendswood 147,125gr flatnose.
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Old November 3, 2013, 06:14 PM   #20
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BingoFuel, NOSLER makes excellent bullets and your 124's are as good as any conventional JHP. Myself, I've been loading the standard old-style Remington 124 gr. JHP "Bulk-Bullet" for many years.

I don't bother with FMJ because there is no price advantage in most cases and in 28 years of handloading, I've yet to use a plated bullet. A good hard cast lead bullet will do anything a plated will and I would use neither for defense. For hunting loads using a properly sized hard-cast, you're not limited to the 1200 FPS that's usually recommended for plated, or thereabouts. In .357 & .41 Magnum I've never had any problems using hard-cast loaded to JHP velocity, but I always use a bullet that is at least .001" above groove diameter and just haven't had the throat issues that some experience.
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Old November 4, 2013, 07:57 PM   #21
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The only plated bullet I have tried is Barry's. I am a lead fan but the indoor range I use has gone to NO LEAD!!!!!
I use the Berry 9mm and a 44 special bullet. The 9mm I push to 1000 FPS and the 44 to about 800. They have been good bullets, not as accurate as lead but for the price against even cheep jacketed I am very happy with them.
My only issue is with bullet seating. You do need to open the case more so that it goes in easier otherwise it’s easier to deform than the Penn lead I use. Also the crimp you use you need to make sure you don’t over crimp which will also deform the bullet which will affect accuracy.
The first test batch of 44’s I over crimped the first 5, I could have thrown the bullets with better accuracy.
Is there a reason you’re going with plated rather than lead?
I throw 9mm lead at over 1200 FPS out of a carbine with no leading.
http://www.pennbullets.com/9mm/9mm-caliber.html
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