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Old February 26, 2012, 11:53 AM   #1
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do you use ak47 recoil buffer?

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does it cause problems? does it really prevent damage or wear to your ak47?
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Old February 26, 2012, 12:21 PM   #2
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I do on mine. It doesn't seem to do much but I figure it can't hurt.
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Old February 26, 2012, 01:37 PM   #3
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I have a buffer on my AK. Also on my M1911’s. Even though people will come on here and make comments that a buffer is nothing more then a sales gimmick designed to take your money. Conventional wisdom tells me that they work. I’ve spent more then a few years as a motion, high speed automation and robotics maintenance technician. I can tell you that buffers on fast moving machine parts save tens of thousands of dollars per year. Maybe hundreds of thousands. If you’ve seen similar machinery, with and without buffers, and see the affects without, you’d know what I mean. They have to work on semi automatic firearms. But, some people sorely lack said conventional wisdom.
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Old February 26, 2012, 01:45 PM   #4
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If your action is hitting the back of the receiver you don't need a buffer, you need a new recoil spring.
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Old February 26, 2012, 04:37 PM   #5
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I had a couple of AK's that had them installed, and both had problems until they were removed. The trouble with them was they were limiting the carriers travel and causing short stroking issues. They also tend to get chewed up, which has the potential for issues with pieces getting into places they dont belong, causing function issues.

If they were needed, they would come with one from the factory, which they dont.

As was mentioned, if the carrier is impacting the rear of the receiver, you have other issues that need addressing. Ive owned a number of AK's over the years, and none of them ever showed any signs of battering or impact from the carrier.

One thing to consider, without the buffer present, the carrier normally doesnt impact the receiver at all, and doesnt transfer any energy to it. With the buffers installed, they do, even if the buffer is absorbing some of that energy. Not sure how that translates as far as wear goes, but it seems to me, no impact is still better than any impact.
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Old February 26, 2012, 07:07 PM   #6
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I have one on my AK-47 and it still shoots the same way as it did before I put it in.

I can't say that it has helped the rifle, but then again, it hasn't hurt anything so I'm hoping it is doing some good.
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Old February 26, 2012, 08:03 PM   #7
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One thing to consider, without the buffer present, the carrier normally doesnt impact the receiver at all, and doesnt transfer any energy to it.
You must have a perfectly tuned AK. I started off with a brand new AK, shooting Wolf ammo, which is without a doubt on the light side, and after only 200 rounds there was evidence of the carrier hitting the receiver. Actually started to displace (peen) the carrier on one small spot. A buffer will solve this. Some people say it covers it up. Multi million dollar high speed packaging machinery uses buffers on servo guides and air cylinders, and in some cases the buffers are very similar to the ones used in firearms. If it’s good enough for million dollar machinery, it’s good enough for a $400 AK.
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Old February 26, 2012, 08:29 PM   #8
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From the sounds of it, your AK is either out of spec, or needs a new recoil spring, or both.

My AK's are basically just run of the mill, currently a SAR, WASR, and a Krebs converted Saiga. Ive also had a couple of others, and none of them show any sign of battering of the receiver or carrier, and a couple of them get shot on a regular basis, and have quite a few thousands of rounds through them at this point.

As I said earlier, the couple of guns I had that had the buffers in, were nothing but trouble with the buffers installed. The trouble went away as soon as they were removed.

If they were really necessary, they would have been included in the design and installed at the factory, and that goes for any gun, not just the AK's. Of all the guns Ive owned over the years, the only one Ive had that came from the factory with a buffer installed, was my SWD M11/9mm SMG. It is obvious that it needs it, as it needs replaced on a regular basis. If you dont pay attention to it, it will start to break up and has caused stoppages because of it.

Just out of curiosity, do those million dollar machines come with buffers installed, or do you buy $5 aftermarket buffers for them? Most of the aftermarket AK stuff (and many other guns too for that matter) is "gimmicky" and really does nothing to help with their performance, and in many cases, restrict it. The closer to the original design you leave it, the better off you are. If the gun is beating itself to death, then you need to find out why, because it wasnt not designed to do that. A buffer is nothing more than a feel good band aid, and not the cure.
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Old February 27, 2012, 02:23 AM   #9
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I've never used a buffer in any of my AK's.

I agree with the notion that if it were needed, they would come that way from the factory. It would cost virtually nothing and be virtually no more work to add a buffer and since no manufacturer thus far has seen fit to do it... it suggests it's just not that necessary.
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