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Old February 17, 2012, 03:46 PM   #1
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Sig P238 Eight Pound Trigger pull

I have a P238 and the trigger pull is much too heavy; I'm told its an 8 lb trigger pull. Is it possible to reduce the trigger pull; apparently Sig will not touch the trigger pull on a P238.
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Old February 17, 2012, 06:00 PM   #2
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No idea, mine seems fine to me and if I had to guess I'd say it was noticably less then 8 lbs. Probably closer to 6 lbs.
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Old February 17, 2012, 07:02 PM   #3
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If you look on Sig's website under custom shop, I believe they offer a sevice
to enhance the trigger. Unfortunately you have to send the gun in to them.
Hope this helps.
I just bought a P238 this week and haven't fired it yet but the trigger seems
not that bad..
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Old February 17, 2012, 07:08 PM   #4
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How long have you had it? I'd get some snap caps and dry fire the crap out of it in between range trips. Give it some time before you lay out money for a trigger job.
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Old February 18, 2012, 06:33 AM   #5
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8 lbs seems excessive. Where did that info come from? Looked up the specs and it comes from the factory at 5 lbs.
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Old February 18, 2012, 11:06 AM   #6
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Yes, 8 pounds is too heavy. Did somebody measure this or just guess at it? If you bought it from a local gun store, they might be able to measure it for you. If it does measure 8 pounds, it needs to go to Sig. In my experience, some grittiness will disappear with useage and the trigger might get slightly lighter, but not anywhere close to three pounds lighter.
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Old February 18, 2012, 01:32 PM   #7
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Originally Posted by toomanygunz
I have a P238 and the trigger pull is much too heavy; I'm told its an 8 lb trigger pull. Is it possible to reduce the trigger pull; apparently Sig will not touch the trigger pull on a P238.
I was considering the P238, so I found a gun shop that had one in stock and tried the trigger (dry fire).

I would be willing to bet it was close to 8 pounds.
Not good at all.

Not as nasty as the S&W Bodyguard, but still pretty stiff.

Trying the P238 changed my mind about wanting one.
Also it caused me to decide not to buy anything without trying the trigger first.


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Old February 18, 2012, 01:36 PM   #8
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I have seen new handguns sold with a ten pound trigger pull to apparently comply with Massachusett's or Maryland or California gun laws.

Maybe you got one of those guns made for those states.
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Old February 18, 2012, 03:16 PM   #9
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If it is new, according to the website, it comes in at 5 lbs. Neither Mass nor CA. compliant.
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Old February 18, 2012, 03:58 PM   #10
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p238 is mass compliant.
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Old February 18, 2012, 06:38 PM   #11
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I must have a non-compliant trigger, there is a bit of of pre-travel and then a fairly heavy ~5 pound (maybe a little more) release (I'm estimating)... However, on a self-defense weapon I don't think I want a 1.5 to 2 LB trigger in a high stress situation!! My 2 centavos...
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Old February 18, 2012, 11:35 PM   #12
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The 2011 Sig Catalog lists trigger weight of the P238 at five pounds, p. 50. http://www.sigsauer.com/upFiles/CmsC...1%20webpdf.pdf

However, I have seen a couple of references to a trigger weight pull of 7 to 8 pounds including one where the poster indicated he contacted Sig and they refused to lighten the trigger. http://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=334336

Perhaps the weight has changed over time and the change is not reflected in the catalog? Mine is a fairly early model and it does not feel that heavy. I don't have a trigger gauge.
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Old February 19, 2012, 04:15 AM   #13
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Old February 19, 2012, 06:27 AM   #14
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Because that euro junk is what I want.

And according to the Sig site, the newer P238 is not Mass compliant.
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Old February 19, 2012, 06:37 AM   #15
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KyJim, in that thread , I didn't see that the trigger in question was ever measured. Is it possible that it was an estimation?
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Old February 19, 2012, 12:09 PM   #16
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It absolutely could be an estimate. The troubling aspect, if true, is that Sig would not work on it. Maybe it's a liability thing or maybe it's a "if it's not broke, we don't fix it" thing.

I also saw a review on Gunblast where the weight was seven pounds. http://www.gunblast.com/SIG-P238.htm. They list the trigger pull on the new Mustang at 5.75 pounds. http://www.gunblast.com/Colt-MustangPocketLite.htm. According to Chuck Hawks' site, at least one model of the 238 had a trigger pull of eight pounds. http://www.chuckhawks.com/sig_P238_titanium.htm.
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Old February 19, 2012, 01:22 PM   #17
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Having put a 1000+ rounds through a NAA Guardian 380 before trading it in for my SIG HD P238, I can say with confidence that while I've never had it tested, the pull on my P238 is nowhere near the 10lbs of pull it took to shoot the Guardian. That is not to say your P238 is the same as mine. I'm very pleased with my P238 and am contemplating purchasing another for the warden, I mean, my wife.
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Old February 20, 2012, 07:37 AM   #18
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KyJim, As these articles were written in 2010, is it also possible that the trigger pull issue had been rectified on subsequent models?

toomany, what year is the manufacture date if you know? I agree that it's troubling that Sig won't work on the trigger for this as has been stated.
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Old February 20, 2012, 02:16 PM   #19
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Mine measured 7.3 lbs.
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Old February 23, 2012, 03:08 PM   #20
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Mine feels "just right".
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Old February 23, 2012, 04:33 PM   #21
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Old February 26, 2012, 06:12 PM   #22
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Sig 238 Trigger Job

Bought the wife a 238 Diamond Plate a month ago. The Sig website lists the trigger pull as 7.5 - 8.5lbs. While it will get a little better with use the trigger pull does not matter for accuracy as far as my wife is concerned. She loves the gun and is fairly accurate. I liked her gun so much, I had to have one too.
I like the looks of the Equinox model and found one on the Internet for a great price. Haven't had time to shoot it yet though. Even though the trigger job may be a little heavy, I've learned from other sites that Sig will not accept 238's for trigger jobs. Probably a liability issue. Never thought i'd carry a .380 but the 238 is perfect for the job. No recoil, good accuracy, big enough to get the job done and small enough for good concealment, and with over 300 rounds thru the wife's 238, it has utter reliability. Great gun!
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Old February 27, 2012, 07:59 PM   #23
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The trigger pull on my Colt Mustang had more creep in it than any trigger I have ever encountered. Then I had the entire pistol cerakoated. Now it is a really nice trigger! All the creep gone and a noticably lighter let off.

Go to Wilson website or brownels who carries their parts, and you will see they have a variety of springs, includimng a lighter hammer spring that will also help let off on your Colt. I think it shoudl work for the SIG 238 as well. You could probably ask them if they are interchangeable. PRetty sure they are.

I have shot a Roguard and nikle plated Mustang that Robar in Phoenix plated and it is even better than my cerakoated pistol. The SIG's are reasonably enough priced you should be able to do something about the trigger.

Several print and on line reviews have mentioned the heavy trigger pull compared to newer Mustangs.

I like the SIG. I would consider honing parts and plating and the Wilson hammer spring.
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