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Old January 28, 2012, 06:05 PM   #1
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Snake shot anyone?

Need your opinion on what powder and how much of it to use in making up a batch of snakehsot capsules for 38spl and 44mag.
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Old January 28, 2012, 08:29 PM   #2
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4 grs. of CLAYS for 38/357 6gr. for 44

This is what I use when using capsules .
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Old January 28, 2012, 08:44 PM   #3
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I used to load my own and they were worthless unless I was maybe 3 foot away from the snake...lol
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Old January 28, 2012, 10:30 PM   #4
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Snake Shot

From the "Single Caliber Data Handbook" for 38 Special

Speer Shotshell Capsuls
Shot size #9

700X 4.5 grains 1060 fps

Bullseye 4.5 grains 1021 fps

HP38 4.5 1054 fps

Unique 5.5 1111 fps

W231 5.0 996 fps

I load 357 cases with the Speer Shot Capsules and 6.0 gr Unique. If you are close to the target, the group is fairly tight. At 15 feet you are going to have about 1 shot hole every square foot. Have to be a big snake to get much shot in it at that range.
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Old January 28, 2012, 11:00 PM   #5
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With shot capsules, I run about 5 gr Unique in .44 Spcl/Mag.
With over-powder wads and over-shot cards, I run 6 gr Unique or Titegroup and as much shot as possible in .44 Mag. They work, but aren't impressive.

With my custom shotshells made from .303 British and .30-40 Krag cases, I run 5.5 gr Unique or Titegroup under 1/2 oz of shot. (220 grains of anything from #4 to #9.)
They're good enough to kill a pine chicken at 15 feet (blue and ruffed grouse).
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Old January 29, 2012, 05:59 AM   #6
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From 357 max cases.

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Old January 29, 2012, 09:07 AM   #7
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how bout you don't shoot the poor snakes???
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Old January 29, 2012, 08:00 PM   #8
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True there thinner now than when I was a yungen & I do leave alone the ones that leave me alone.

Copperheads & some others won`t do dat !!
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Old January 30, 2012, 10:18 AM   #9
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At the distance that I would need to quickly shoot a poisonous snake, the shot capsuls work pretty well. But, that is only a few feet. At that distance, I don't want to take time to carefully aim. And, if I end-up at that distance because a moccasin just dropped off a tree branch into my boat or canoe, I can't really run away. So, it is nice to have a load that probably won't sink the boat by going through the hull. BUT, those little pellets WILL richocette all over the place if shot into a hard surface (and ruin that surface finish if you are shooting at a snake in the bottom of a nice boat).

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Old January 30, 2012, 10:34 AM   #10
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The receipes are listed on the box that the capsules come in, assuming that you're using the Speer Shot Capsules?????
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Old February 12, 2012, 10:07 PM   #11
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I used to load my own and they were worthless unless I was maybe 3 foot away from the snake...lol
I set up a cardboard box about 15 feet one time and shot it with the "snake" rounds out of a 38. Did not even penetrate the first layer of the box.

Good way to get a ****** off snake unless he is between your feet.

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Old February 12, 2012, 11:32 PM   #12
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I set up a cardboard box about 15 feet one time and shot it with the "snake" rounds out of a 38. Did not even penetrate the first layer of the box.

Good way to get a ****** off snake unless he is between your feet.
I think I used 4.5gr bullseye with 38spl shot caps. Works awesome on snakes, and kills quail too. Course I wasn't shooting them at 15 feet, either. I walk up to them and shoot them at a distance that is both safe and effective. I didn't have to get as close to them as I do when I kill them with a shovel, and one shot always knocked the crap out of them. I'm always impressed at how good a job it does.






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Old February 13, 2012, 06:02 AM   #13
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I got into the shot deal quite a few years back and since I already had several sizes of shot from 9 up through 2 I played with some of it all.

For hte standard loads I found that 7 1/2 worked out the best in the 44 while the 8 worked out best in the 357's. For other kicks and giggles I also loaded up some of the 4 which in the 357 with a felt underwad inserted before the little plastic cap would allow nice groups to a further distance. I too have taken squirrel, rabbit, quail and dove with those so loaded shot rounds. Best shot ever was a cotton tail quick draw which rolled it in mid stride.

Then there was my adventure into bigger shot for the 44 which resulted in these for my 44, they use the Speer #5110-.350" lead round ball,


They are pretty accurate and good for small game out to about 15yds or so.
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Old February 13, 2012, 10:43 AM   #14
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The SPEER boxes the capsules come in have the recipes on the box. #9 shot seems to be decent enough and packs more punch than #11 or #12 which they use in the 22 shot capsules
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Old February 13, 2012, 11:32 AM   #15
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Oh I forgot to mention, I use #8 or #7.5 shot in my 38 shot capsules.
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Old February 13, 2012, 11:56 AM   #16
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A friend insist on using #12 shot, he tells me when the snake is shot with #12 it will not move again, #12, he says, kills them dead immediately! And I ask, “What happens when you shoot it twice with #6?”

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Old February 16, 2012, 02:45 PM   #17
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38 Spl - Unique

I have had great luck with the published load for 38 spl using 5.5 gr Unique, (alway confirm data) using the Speer caps and #9 shot. Lighter loads, resulted in inconsistant pattern and sometime the capsul would not break and spread. Larger shot size like 8 or 7-1/2 seemed to have a slightly tighter pattern. These are very handy loads for off-road carry, a must for desert & woods.
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Old February 17, 2012, 11:09 AM   #18
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#12, he says, kills them dead immediately! And I ask, “What happens when you shoot it twice with #6?”
They immediately end up half dead.
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Old February 17, 2012, 11:11 AM   #19
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Or maybe it's the square root of dead.
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