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Old February 9, 2012, 06:38 PM   #1
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Favorite Powder and primer for 40 S&W

Unfortunately I don't shoot enough to experiment with a lot of different powder and primer combos, so I'm asking.... what's your favorite powder and primer for 40 S&W? If it makes a difference, I shoot a Glock 23. TIA
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Old February 9, 2012, 07:07 PM   #2
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127----There are so many good combinations from BTTW to nice gentle fun plunkers. Ive got a large quantity of an old shotshell powder thats no longer available, i use it for all lite to moderate loads. I use a dose of Hodgdons Lonshot for heavy loads. CCI primers start the process in all of them. The best answer is to get a good loading manual and look for the manuals recommendation for accuracy or power. Sierra makes recommendations along those lines also. www.reloadersnest.com is a site where lots of folks list their favorites, Id compare them to some known data such as a manual before plunging ahead.
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Old February 9, 2012, 07:22 PM   #3
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I use the following:
Berry's 180 grain plated bullets
Winchester or CCI Small Pistol Primers
5.0 grains Hodgdon Universal

This is a published load.
See: http://data.hodgdon.com/main_menu.asp

I own a Glock 27 in the .40 S&W and shoot 40'a a lot.

If you reload .40's that have been fired in a Glock you most likely will need to address "Glock Bulge". The best tool I've used for this is the Redding G-RX Base Sizing Die. LEE makes a die as well. My advice is to use the Redding die, I had much better luck with it than I did the LEE.

I do not run LEE equipment down, I own some LEE equipment and use it frequently.
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Old February 9, 2012, 07:48 PM   #4
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I like N320 and N340 for their softer recoil and clean burn,pricey though.Other favorites are AA#5and WSF(best for lead, for me),HP-38/Win231,SR7625 and for stout loads Power Pistol(you feel the snap with this powder).
Many others work good also,I haven't used them all(yet),so this is just my list. I like to pick a powder of the month and try it in many of my guns ,just to see what it's like,so I have quite a list.Most can be made to shoot great with the right bullet/charge/oal ect... so you should be able to pick a common one that is available localy and get it to work.
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Old February 10, 2012, 12:04 AM   #5
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I use the following:
Berry's 180 grain plated bullets
Winchester or CCI Small Pistol Primers
5.0 grains Hodgdon Universal

This is a published load.
See: http://data.hodgdon.com/main_menu.asp

I own a Glock 27 in the .40 S&W and shoot 40'a a lot.

If you reload .40's that have been fired in a Glock you most likely will need to address "Glock Bulge [gundigest.com] ". The best tool I've used for this is the Redding G-RX Base Sizing Die [midwayusa.com] . LEE makes a die as well. My advice is to use the Redding die, I had much better luck with it than I did the LEE.

I do not run LEE equipment down, I own some LEE equipment and use it frequently.
Thank you for the links, it's very helpful
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Old February 10, 2012, 12:27 AM   #6
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Due to larger than jacketed (.400") sizing of ~.401" diameter, Berry's recommends using lead load data or start-to-mid range jacketed load data. Hodgdon's website posted above will give you the jacketed load data, but Hodgdon/Winchester currently do not have lead load data for 40S&W - http://www.berrysmfg.com/faq-q9-c1-H...d_Bullets.aspx

Here are some lead load data from 1999 Winchester Reloaders Manual:

40S&W 170 gr Lead W231/HP-38 - Start 4.0 gr (850 fps) 22,800 PSI - Max 5.2 gr (1030 fps) 33,200 PSI
40S&W 170 gr Lead WST - Start 4.0 gr (870 fps) 22,800 PSI - Max 5.0 gr (970 fps) 30,000 PSI
40S&W 170 gr Lead WSF - Start 5.2 gr (950 fps) 23,500 PSI - Max 6.2 gr (1090 fps) 33,200 PSI

40S&W 200 gr Lead W231/HP-38 - Start 3.0 gr (700 fps) 21,100 PSI - Max 4.0 gr (850 fps) 33,200 PSI
40S&W 200 gr Lead WST - No Start Charge - Max 3.5 gr (760 fps) 25,200 PSI
40S&W 200 gr Lead WSF - Start 3.9 gr (785 fps) 21,800 PSI - Max 5.0 gr (920 fps) 33,200 PSI

Another +1 for 180 gr bullet weight for 40S&W. Out of Glock 22/27, 180 gr Berry's plated bullet with 3.8 - 4.1 gr of W231/HP-38 will produce mild, 9mm-like recoil target loads that are very accurate. 4.2 - 4.5 gr will produce moderate recoil target loads that are very accurate.

For full power loads, I prefer WSF or AutoComp.

As for primers, I prefer Winchester/CCI.
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Old February 10, 2012, 01:33 PM   #7
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I use the following:
Berry's 180 grain plated bullets
Winchester or CCI Small Pistol Primers
5.0 grains Hodgdon Universal

This is a published load.
See: http://data.hodgdon.com/main_menu.asp

I own a Glock 27 in the .40 S&W and shoot 40'a a lot.

If you reload .40's that have been fired in a Glock you most likely will need to address "Glock Bulge [gundigest.com] ". The best tool I've used for this is the Redding G-RX Base Sizing Die [midwayusa.com] . LEE makes a die as well. My advice is to use the Redding die, I had much better luck with it than I did the LEE.

I do not run LEE equipment down, I own some LEE equipment and use it frequently.

What part of the reload process do you use this die? Before or after the resize?
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Old February 10, 2012, 02:13 PM   #8
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Unique powder and winchester primers
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Old February 10, 2012, 02:28 PM   #9
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Winchester Primers, Herc 2400, and cast lead. It has recently become my new favorite combo.

http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=478254
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Old February 10, 2012, 02:43 PM   #10
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Win. brass, CCI primer, 155G XTP, 11grains of ...........Blue dot.
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Old February 10, 2012, 02:46 PM   #11
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Federal 100 and Universal Clays for plinkers (all I load for the 40).
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Old February 10, 2012, 03:26 PM   #12
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165 grain and 180 Berrys plated flat point bullet
CCI 500 primer
Low power target loads - Winchester 231 (see Hodgdon site)
Full power loads - Power Pistol

Check online Alliant Powder Guide at:

http://www.alliantpowder.com/reloaders/default.aspx
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Old February 10, 2012, 05:23 PM   #13
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"What part of the reload process do you use this die? Before or after the resize?"

First step, right after cleaning the brass. I usually debulge several at a time. They move from the clean brass bucket to the debulged bucket. From there I resize, prime, powder, bell, and last but not least seat the bullet.
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Old February 10, 2012, 05:52 PM   #14
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First step, right after cleaning the brass. I usually debulge several at a time. They move from the clean brass bucket to the debulged bucket. From there I resize, prime, powder, bell, and last but not least seat the bullet.
Thanks, I've added G-Rx to my Midway cart. More gadgets. YEAH!!!.
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Old February 10, 2012, 06:13 PM   #15
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Hodgdon Universal ...CCI primers....and Montana Gold bullets ( 180gr FMJ )
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Old February 10, 2012, 07:22 PM   #16
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I use Alliant's "Power Pistol" powder - it was pretty much designed for semiautomatic pistols, particularly 9mm, .357 Sig and .40 S&W. For primers, I use CCI 500 small pistol primers.

The Power Pistol works well for me, although it does seem to give a brighter muzzle flash than other powders I've used..
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Old February 10, 2012, 09:24 PM   #17
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5.3 grains of Titegroup under a 165 grain TCFM Zero bullet using a Winchester Small Pistol primer.
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Old February 10, 2012, 10:27 PM   #18
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I have tried HS-6, Red Dot and Titegroup. I had good results with all three eventually. All shooting a 180 grain Berry's.

Best groups overall and consistency with Titegroup.

4.2 Grains with the plated Berry's

3.5 Grains with the Lead Flat Point

1.125 OAL

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Old February 11, 2012, 09:17 AM   #19
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I use HS-6 when I load jacketed bullets. For the bulk of my practice stuff I use Berry's bullets and Power Pistol. Both loads I am using Wolf primers since I bought a few cases when the other stuff was mostly unavailable.
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Old February 11, 2012, 10:26 PM   #20
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WOW, great info here. Thanks for everyones input. I think I'll start with 180 gr Berry plated bullets and HP-38 or HS-6. I'll have to see what LGS has
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