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Old February 7, 2012, 02:29 PM   #1
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Most Reliable .45 Out of Box?

what do you think is the most reliable .45 ACP semi-auto pistol out of the box? As in, stone cold reliable, doesn't need a trip to the gunsmith to get it working reliably.

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Old February 7, 2012, 02:36 PM   #2
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Ruger KP345.

It may not be the highest class .45 out there but yep, it's reliable right out of the box. Pushed a wipe down the barrel and took it to the range. Had 0 issues.
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Old February 7, 2012, 02:51 PM   #3
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The USP 45 is extremely over-engineered and used by a lot of special forces all over the world. I don't think you'd have any problems with it whatsoever.

The Glock 21 is also pretty well known for reliability.

I think the P220 would also stack up well with the others so long as you got the full-size version and not the carry or sub-compact version.

The CZ 97's have had frame cracking issues in the past and as much as I love my Colt 1911's, they can sometimes require some tuning to be made 100% the same as any other 1911 out there.
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Old February 7, 2012, 02:54 PM   #4
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Any of those SHOULD be fine. However, even as a 1911 nut, that design has the most potential for issues. If out of the box reliability is the supreme factor, I might set that one aside.

Still, keep in mind that everybody, even Glock, can make a gun that doesn't work right. You're always running a risk of issues. However, those you've listed are generally high quality guns. But you will still need to see some in person to know whether or not they're for you. It could be that one feels so much better and more natural to you that you'll ignore all the others. At some point it is personal preference.
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Old February 7, 2012, 03:13 PM   #5
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My vote goes for the G21 but all are fine weapons. I've NEVER had a malfunciton of any kind with either my G30 or G21. The G30 has untold thousands of rounds through it but I never kept track of the count. My G21 has a little over 4000 at this point. Here's a review of the G21 I wrote not too long ago:
http://gunreviewguy.blogspot.com/201...00-rounds.html
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Old February 7, 2012, 03:18 PM   #6
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Tough choices, but since I have a P220, I'll pick my Sig.

Looks like the choices changed - out of the two I'd pick the HK. I just can't for the love of everything get a good feel with a Glock in my hands. I've shot them, they are accurate, never had a problem, but jeez...

Okay, stick to your guns OP, I mean your question. Its open house now on the model. So I'm picking my P220, again.

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Old February 7, 2012, 03:20 PM   #7
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They are all good choices, and should, in all due honesty be equally reliable under "normal" circumstances with proper ammo.
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Old February 7, 2012, 03:24 PM   #8
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As others have said, all are great choices. The .45 Glocks are particularly reliable. The Glock 21 is what was used for the infamous Glock Torture test that you can find on the Internet. The only problem with with the large frame Glocks is that they don't always fit your hand. If you have handled one and it fits well, then it's an excellent choice.

My *favorite* .45 would be my Springfield TRP 1911. I've had a bunch of the polymer/highcap .45's and the Sig P220 Stainless (Elite) - The 1911 isn't as high-capacity, but it's actually very comfortable.

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Old February 7, 2012, 03:25 PM   #9
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Ruger P90/97?
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Old February 7, 2012, 03:45 PM   #10
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My favorite would be the 220. While you're at it, why are you so set on the stainless? I find the regular aluminum frame to be plenty controllable, one of the best out there imo, and a heck of a lot lighter.
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Old February 7, 2012, 04:22 PM   #11
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Had a 21, never jammed after 1200 rounds.

Sig 220, trigger return spring snapped.

Current CZ 97b, finicky with certain bullet profiles, IE JHP. Love the ergos though, it's a keeper.

I understand the Rugers are stone reliable.
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Old February 7, 2012, 04:29 PM   #12
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I have all but the CZ
Glock 21
Sig P220
Colt 1911 Gold Cup
Colt 1911 Briley
HK USP 45
XD 45

They are of equal reliability out of the box, with the exception of the Goldcup.
It needed some work to feed Hollow Points… but I bought it in 1978 so it is not really fair.

Of the group my preference is the Sig for carry
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Old February 7, 2012, 05:18 PM   #13
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ok... well I'm going to trim a few off the list
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Old February 7, 2012, 05:27 PM   #14
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What about the FNP-45? I've never shot one, but I've heard great things.
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Old February 7, 2012, 05:35 PM   #15
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Old February 7, 2012, 05:40 PM   #16
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How about an HK45.

http://pistol-training.com/archives/4027
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Old February 7, 2012, 05:41 PM   #17
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HK USP 45

on hkpro forums there's a guy with one that has over 160,000 rounds through it. He's a police officer and on SWAT. he says its jammed 4 times (he's the original owner) 3 times due to the slide coming into contact with a barrier while cycling. The 4th because he hadn't cleaned it in thousands of rounds. Says he changes the springs twice. That's reliability if you ask me....

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http://www.hkpro.com/forum/hk-handgu...-sexy-gun.html
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Old February 7, 2012, 05:50 PM   #18
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i am a 1911 guy. i have 1911's from colt, springfield and taurus. while i consider ALL of my 1911's reliable now my colt and springfield 1911's had a few issues out of the box. after the "break in period" that you here 1911 owners talk about i now consider them reliable. my taurus pt-1911 has been perfect out of the box and as accurate as any of my other 1911's. i do have one 45 that is not a 1911, it is a taurus pt-145. it has also been totally reliable right out of the box. go figure.
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Old February 7, 2012, 05:50 PM   #19
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I have a glock 21SF and it's great
now that I got it back from Glock for repair.
I didn't have 100 rds thru it when the
Ambi mag release just fell apart and then of course
the mag would stay secured.
It seems there are 2 frames.
1. the ambi frame
2. the old style frame with regular mag release.
I searched the internet ,found out that there have
been issues with this frame.
Then I called Glock ,told them of my problem
and that I want an old style frame.
I expected to pay for it.
No charge , but oddly different serial number
and I had no paperwork to sign.
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Old February 7, 2012, 05:55 PM   #20
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i am a 1911 guy. i have 1911's from colt, springfield and taurus. while i consider ALL of my 1911's reliable now my colt and springfield 1911's had a few issues out of the box. after the "break in period" that you here 1911 owners talk about i now consider them reliable. my taurus pt-1911 has been perfect out of the box and as accurate as any of my other 1911's. i do have one 45 that is not a 1911, it is a taurus pt-145. it has also been totally reliable right out of the box. go figure.
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Old February 7, 2012, 06:03 PM   #21
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glock 21...I did have a glock 36 which was extremely tight out of the box and for about 600 rds.

I currently have a Kimber tactical and Springfield champion operator, while I love 1911s the break-in period is not a joke and by no means is just a saying. for awhile they the Springfield would only feed certain ammo and would not operate well w/ KimPro mags.

You can take a Glock 21 to hell and back.
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Old February 7, 2012, 06:04 PM   #22
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After owning a Sig P226, my first .45 ACP will be a Sig P220 to go with it. Glocks are fine guns and I carry a G19, but Sigs are much more enjoyable to shoot.
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Old February 7, 2012, 07:52 PM   #23
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Either should be fine. My choice would be the Springfield TRP. Mine has been stone cold reliable and scary accurate. Id put it up against any other .45 out of the box you'd care to try it against.
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Old February 7, 2012, 10:13 PM   #24
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Another vote for the SIG P-220...
Right out of the box, no problems....!


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Old February 7, 2012, 10:24 PM   #25
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SIG P220.
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