Persistent setting change.

wogpotter · January 30, 2012, 09:39 AM

Can we please go back to the original method of marking posts as read or not read, the new system is horrible.

**Mike Irwin** · January 30, 2012, 11:22 AM

How many computers are you working on, Wog?

I'm working on three different computers in any given day, and it's driving me absolutely insane.

**Mal H** · January 30, 2012, 11:28 AM

Please be a little more descriptive - what is horrible about it?

wogpotter · January 30, 2012, 01:18 PM

Just working on one computer.

The new setting makes it look like there is more traffic than there is, but you have to wade through read & unread listings with the threads all intermingled. Its worse when there are a lot of threads on topics you aren't interested in in a sub forum that you are interested in when you have to look at the same (old, but marked as new) posts again.

Pahoo · January 30, 2012, 02:04 PM

In one of my past lives, we had a saying;
When all else fails, read the directions"

Not really a problem as long as you are patient with the change and yourself. Oh yes, read the directions. Just a new direction, in the learning curve. For some, it might be more confusing if you change it back. .....

Be Safe !!!

**Mal H** · January 30, 2012, 02:51 PM

wogpotter - do you use the "Mark Forums Read" (or mark the individual forums as read) at times, like when you are leaving your current session and you fell you've seen everything you want to?

**Brian Pfleuger** · January 31, 2012, 02:32 PM

I'm surprised this is causing so much trouble. I use TFL from an iPhone, a work computer and two home computers, sometimes back and forth between several of them in a few minutes time.

I would never have known there was a change if people weren't complaining. I still don't even see what they're complaining about. Not that I don't agree, I don't even see it.

The only thing I noticed is that TapATalk now perpetually tells me that there are "99+" unread threads no matter how often I look. I wouldn't have even noticed that if people weren't complaining.

You all must look at the forum somehow different than I do.

**Mike Irwin** · January 31, 2012, 03:07 PM

My complaint is that the "messages read and cleared" feature leaves a persistent cookie on that particular computer, not in your user account.

I consistently use three computers.

On my work computer I'll mark everything read on Friday afternoon before I leave.

I'll read throughout the weekend.

Yet, when I get in Monday morning, my work computer says "hey, you've not been on TFL since Friday, so you've not read anything!"

The exception to that is for threads in which I've replied. That seems to break that persistent cookie.

It's hugely annoying.

But, I can see why you're not bothered by it. Anyone who uses an iPhone has demonstrated he just aint too bright...

**Brian Pfleuger** · January 31, 2012, 04:30 PM

So you guys are using the "New Posts" feature a lot, I take it? I've never done that at all. I just scroll through the various forums.

Quote:

Anyone who uses an iPhone has demonstrated he just aint too bright...

Au Contraire, Mon Frère

**Mike Irwin** · January 31, 2012, 05:02 PM

No, I'm scrolling through the various forums.

I've never used the "New Posts" button. I like a little more structure to how things are presented.

"Au Contraire, Mon Frère"

Look that up on your iPhone?

That's OK. Here, have a ball to play with. Don't hurt yourself.

**Mike Irwin** · January 31, 2012, 05:05 PM

OK, this is REALLY ODD...

I was last on this computer last night around 9 p.m. and hit the "mark all forums read" button.

This afternoon, when I left work at 2:15, I hit the "mark all forums read" button.

By what I've seen previously, I should see all new posts made after my last visit on this computer.

Only....

I'm seeing all posts made TODAY, AFTER 12:45 p.m.

What the hell is going on?

I wonder what I'm going to see when I fire up my netbook? I've not been on it since Sunday evening.

**Brian Pfleuger** · January 31, 2012, 05:21 PM

Huh. I guess I'm not paying attention to the right stuff. I still don't see any difference.

wogpotter · January 31, 2012, 05:31 PM

Quote:

do you use the "Mark Forums Read" (or mark the individual forums as read) at times, like when you are leaving your current session and you fell you've seen everything you want to?

Now I do, before the act of logging off did it for me.

Quote:

Oh yes, read the directions.

I did, I just don't like the way it's working now.

**pax** · February 1, 2012, 02:09 AM

I am not confused.

I am ticked off.

pax

**Shane Tuttle** · February 1, 2012, 05:31 AM

For the record, I'm a "New Posts" user. I go through specific forums I'm assigned first most of the time. After that, I just click on new posts and start looking for items of interest to read. It's probably not a good litmus coming from a Staff member since it's probably not how a regular member operates.

Nonetheless, FWIW, that's how I roll...

Sorry you're ticked off, pax. I can see where it might be a headache for others. I'm too uneducated in the realm of computers and the vBulletin to know what I'm missing.

Edward429451 · February 1, 2012, 11:30 AM

I don't see a problem. Click around and find stuff to read. I use the new posts button all the time and it is different but eh...

wogpotter · February 1, 2012, 02:11 PM

Just for the record I'm not mad at anyone, & I'm not confused. I just prefer the old system as I don't have to go & check everything as read all the time like I do now. It makes the site look busier, but that seems to be it's only virtue, making it look busier than it actually is.

Yes I'm a "New Posts" kind of guy.

January 30, 2012, 09:39 AM	#1
wogpotter Senior Member Join Date: September 27, 2004 Posts: 2,063	Persistent setting change. Can we please go back to the original method of marking posts as read or not read, the new system is horrible. __________________ Allan Quartermain: “Automatic rifles. Who in God's name has automatic rifles”? Elderly Hunter: “That's dashed unsporting. Probably Belgium.”

January 30, 2012, 11:22 AM	#2
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 14, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 33,141	How many computers are you working on, Wog? I'm working on three different computers in any given day, and it's driving me absolutely insane. __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.

January 30, 2012, 01:18 PM	#4
wogpotter Senior Member Join Date: September 27, 2004 Posts: 2,063	Just working on one computer. The new setting makes it look like there is more traffic than there is, but you have to wade through read & unread listings with the threads all intermingled. Its worse when there are a lot of threads on topics you aren't interested in in a sub forum that you are interested in when you have to look at the same (old, but marked as new) posts again. __________________ Allan Quartermain: “Automatic rifles. Who in God's name has automatic rifles”? Elderly Hunter: “That's dashed unsporting. Probably Belgium.”

January 30, 2012, 02:04 PM	#5
Pahoo Senior Member Join Date: February 16, 2006 Location: IOWA Posts: 4,404	New tricks for Old-Dogs !!! In one of my past lives, we had a saying; When all else fails, read the directions" Not really a problem as long as you are patient with the change and yourself. Oh yes, read the directions. Just a new direction, in the learning curve. For some, it might be more confusing if you change it back. ..... Be Safe !!! __________________ 'Fundamental truths' are easy to recognize because they are verified daily through simple observation and thus, require no testing.

January 31, 2012, 02:32 PM	#7
Brian Pfleuger Staff Join Date: June 25, 2008 Location: Central, Southern NY, USA Posts: 14,515	I'm surprised this is causing so much trouble. I use TFL from an iPhone, a work computer and two home computers, sometimes back and forth between several of them in a few minutes time. I would never have known there was a change if people weren't complaining. I still don't even see what they're complaining about. Not that I don't agree, I don't even see it. The only thing I noticed is that TapATalk now perpetually tells me that there are "99+" unread threads no matter how often I look. I wouldn't have even noticed that if people weren't complaining. You all must look at the forum somehow different than I do. __________________ Still happily answering to the call-sign Peetza. --- You do not HAVE a soul. You ARE a soul. You HAVE a body. -C.S. Lewis He is no fool who gives what he can not keep to gain what he can not lose. -Jim Eliott, paraphrasing Philip Henry.

January 30, 2012, 11:28 AM	#3
Mal H Staff Join Date: March 20, 1999 Location: Somewhere in the woods of Northern VA Posts: 14,083	Please be a little more descriptive - what is horrible about it?

January 30, 2012, 02:51 PM	#6
Mal H Staff Join Date: March 20, 1999 Location: Somewhere in the woods of Northern VA Posts: 14,083	wogpotter - do you use the "Mark Forums Read" (or mark the individual forums as read) at times, like when you are leaving your current session and you fell you've seen everything you want to?

January 31, 2012, 03:07 PM	#8
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 14, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 33,141	My complaint is that the "messages read and cleared" feature leaves a persistent cookie on that particular computer, not in your user account. I consistently use three computers. On my work computer I'll mark everything read on Friday afternoon before I leave. I'll read throughout the weekend. Yet, when I get in Monday morning, my work computer says "hey, you've not been on TFL since Friday, so you've not read anything!" The exception to that is for threads in which I've replied. That seems to break that persistent cookie. It's hugely annoying. But, I can see why you're not bothered by it. Anyone who uses an iPhone has demonstrated he just aint too bright... __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.

January 31, 2012, 05:02 PM	#10
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 14, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 33,141	No, I'm scrolling through the various forums. I've never used the "New Posts" button. I like a little more structure to how things are presented. "Au Contraire, Mon Frère" Look that up on your iPhone? That's OK. Here, have a ball to play with. Don't hurt yourself. __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.

January 31, 2012, 05:05 PM	#11
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 14, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 33,141	OK, this is REALLY ODD... I was last on this computer last night around 9 p.m. and hit the "mark all forums read" button. This afternoon, when I left work at 2:15, I hit the "mark all forums read" button. By what I've seen previously, I should see all new posts made after my last visit on this computer. Only.... I'm seeing all posts made TODAY, AFTER 12:45 p.m. What the hell is going on? I wonder what I'm going to see when I fire up my netbook? I've not been on it since Sunday evening. __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.

January 31, 2012, 05:21 PM	#12
Brian Pfleuger Staff Join Date: June 25, 2008 Location: Central, Southern NY, USA Posts: 14,515	Huh. I guess I'm not paying attention to the right stuff. I still don't see any difference. __________________ Still happily answering to the call-sign Peetza. --- You do not HAVE a soul. You ARE a soul. You HAVE a body. -C.S. Lewis He is no fool who gives what he can not keep to gain what he can not lose. -Jim Eliott, paraphrasing Philip Henry.

February 1, 2012, 02:09 AM	#14
pax Staff Join Date: May 17, 2000 Location: Washington state Posts: 6,403	I am not confused. I am ticked off. pax __________________ Kathy Jackson My personal website: Cornered Cat

February 1, 2012, 05:31 AM	#15
Shane Tuttle Staff Join Date: November 28, 2005 Location: Blue Grass, IA Posts: 8,209	For the record, I'm a "New Posts" user. I go through specific forums I'm assigned first most of the time. After that, I just click on new posts and start looking for items of interest to read. It's probably not a good litmus coming from a Staff member since it's probably not how a regular member operates. Nonetheless, FWIW, that's how I roll... Sorry you're ticked off, pax. I can see where it might be a headache for others. I'm too uneducated in the realm of computers and the vBulletin to know what I'm missing. __________________ If it were up to me, the word "got" would be deleted from the English language. Posting and YOU: http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/posting

February 1, 2012, 11:30 AM	#16
Edward429451 Senior Member Join Date: November 12, 2000 Location: Colorado Springs, Colorado Posts: 9,457	I don't see a problem. Click around and find stuff to read. I use the new posts button all the time and it is different but eh... __________________ "Always place your clothes and weapons where you can find them in the dark" Lazarus Long "Understand that the enemy is not the enemy in his own eyes ;this may offer you an opportunity to make him your friend. If not, you can kill him without hate, and quickly." Lazarus Long

February 1, 2012, 02:11 PM	#17
wogpotter Senior Member Join Date: September 27, 2004 Posts: 2,063	Just for the record I'm not mad at anyone, & I'm not confused. I just prefer the old system as I don't have to go & check everything as read all the time like I do now. It makes the site look busier, but that seems to be it's only virtue, making it look busier than it actually is. Yes I'm a "New Posts" kind of guy. __________________ Allan Quartermain: “Automatic rifles. Who in God's name has automatic rifles”? Elderly Hunter: “That's dashed unsporting. Probably Belgium.”