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Old January 20, 2012, 10:38 PM   #1
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Anyone shoot any FULLY automatic weapons in here?

I used to live in the mountains of NC and there was a local gun shop that had a range out behind it. All of the guys that worked there and many of their customers had licenses to own fully automatics (mostly Uzi's). Certain nights during the week after closing they would all go behind the store to the range and fire off all these Uzi's and they let me watch one night. Pretty cool stuff.

So I got to wondering just how "common" this was and how many of these "licenses" were actually issued.
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Old January 20, 2012, 10:44 PM   #2
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It is my opinion that any serious firearms enthusiast makes a pilgrimage to Knob Creek at least once in their life
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Old January 20, 2012, 10:47 PM   #3
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I did shoot the M249 pretty frequently when I wore the green suit.
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Old January 20, 2012, 10:50 PM   #4
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You pay a tax for the gun, suppressor, etc. There are no licenses involved, unless youre a dealer.

If your state allows them, you need to find the gun or whatever, and file the paperwork with the ATF. You need to get fingerprinted, a set of passport photos, and your local chief LEO's signature. They do a background check on you, and issue the stamp. Once the stamp comes back, these days, in about 4-6 months, you can pick up your new toy.
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Old January 20, 2012, 10:53 PM   #5
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Done rentals in Vegas a couple times. Thompson and a MP40. Fun, but I wouldn't want to have to afford to feed one.
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Old January 20, 2012, 10:55 PM   #6
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M16, M60, M2 but it's been a few years.
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Old January 20, 2012, 11:07 PM   #7
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DOD training years ago, m16, Ak-47, and Uzi
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Old January 21, 2012, 12:46 AM   #8
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The only thing keeping me from getting fully automatic is the very high $$$. Even then after you get one, shooting it will cost a 2nd mortgage.
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Old January 21, 2012, 12:50 AM   #9
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Got to shoot a suppressed full auto AR15 once. That was a lot of fun.
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Old January 21, 2012, 12:53 AM   #10
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At my last base, I was one of the cadre for the schoolhouse. We would put on demonstrations for various classes where we displaced a lot of myths about what bullets will and won't do. Needless to say, I played with a LOT of full autos from around the world! Yeah, cool job! I think my favorite though must have been the Swedish K. The Thompson had soul, the silenced STEN was like a full auto BB gun, the MAC-10 shot like hell on wheels, both the AUG and Galil were cool but the old Swede just chugged along staying right on target every time. That job and Thai food are the only two things I miss about Florida!
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Old January 21, 2012, 12:55 AM   #11
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I've shot a M50 Reising, and both an Uzi and mini-Uzi. I'm a full auto greenhorn, but I'm fortunate enough to have decent technique (lean into the weapon, short bursts, not tempted to let rip in one burst).

It's fun, and I definitely want to take a trip to Knob Creek, but it just doesn't thrill me like it does other people I know. A good trigger on a semi-automatic can deliver a decent percentage of lead as a full auto can, and put a lot more lead on target.

Now, flamethrowers? I heard there's been times when you could rent one at Knob Creek. That I'm All Over!

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Old January 21, 2012, 12:58 AM   #12
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I'm a security guard for the department of the army. I've gotten to go full auto with an M16a1 and an M249 SAW.

for the record I think the regulations against fully automatics and other class III weapons are unconstitutional.
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Old January 21, 2012, 01:09 AM   #13
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ANY gun law is unconstitutional.

Ron Paul and Uncle Ted would get my vote.
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Old January 21, 2012, 01:11 AM   #14
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And yes, you can strap on a flame thrower at Knob Creek.
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Old January 21, 2012, 03:15 AM   #15
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Sgt Rock

I shoot my "Tommygun" when I have some extra .45 ammo!!!!
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Old January 21, 2012, 03:37 AM   #16
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Yes. Can't hit too well with it at any distance tho, but feels and sounds real cool.
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Old January 21, 2012, 06:48 AM   #17
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M16, M249, M240B, M2 and Mk19. All during training. Out of the bunch, I'd pick the M240B.
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Old January 21, 2012, 08:38 AM   #18
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for the record I think the regulations against fully automatics and other class III weapons are unconstitutional.
The "tax" is within the Constitution and was the only way they could pull their little end run off back when there was still some concern about looking like they cared. They didnt "ban" the guns, simply taxed them, and at a rate that was very prohibitive at the time. Luckily for us, they havent adjusted it for inflation. Last I heard, it would be around $3000 if they did.
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Old January 21, 2012, 09:01 AM   #19
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Fired a MAC .45 belonging to a CWP instructor. I was NOT impressed. The first round would go downrange, and the rest soon became triple A no matter how I gripped the thing.
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Old January 21, 2012, 09:27 AM   #20
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Thats because you were trying to hold it down, instead of just relaxing and riding the gun. The technique is more like riding a fire hose than it is shooting a gun. You dont fight the hose, you use its energy and just keep guiding it to where you want it to go. Its easy to learn once youre shown the way, and full mag dumps are pretty easy to do.
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Old January 21, 2012, 10:03 AM   #21
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The only FA firearm I have fired live rounds is an M14. I was pretty much uncontrollable. first round was on target, second was a few feet high and the rest were artillery into the next zip code

I've also fired blanks out of M16s and M60s, but that doesn't really count.

Personally, I'd reather spend money on an SBR than a FA gun. But I am planning to head up to Minneapolis to rent a few at Bill's gunshop
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Old January 21, 2012, 10:06 AM   #22
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Shoot FULLY automatic weapons?

No. Machineguns are illegal.
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Old January 21, 2012, 10:17 AM   #23
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I most often shot the M249 single shots or in very short bursts to conserve ammo, then after I'd knocked my targets down I'd rattle off the rest, oftentimes I wouldn't. The fun wore off after awhile (sorry guys), I became a range safety later and taught other people how to use them, clear them, not accidentally kill anyone with them.

Now at the end of the day we'd quite often be told we couldn't bring back any ammo, 1000's of rounds would be fired off in a few minutes at the end which most of the guys loved, usually the guys who didn't have to clean the MG's loved it the most.

Now night fire w tracers was always fun and firing with a gas mask on was interesting.
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Old January 21, 2012, 03:17 PM   #24
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I've got plenty of experience with a MAC, Uzi, PPSH41, MP-38, M16, Sten, MP5K, and some ARs in various calibers. As of now, my NFA needs lean more towards suppressors and SBRs. Too expensive to feed them.
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Old January 21, 2012, 03:39 PM   #25
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M16, M60, M2 but it's been a few years.
Those and the Uzi and G3 (trained with the Bundeswehr a couple of times).

My favorite was the M2: If you could see it, you could hit it, given enough time and rounds.
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