one milsurp for hunting all north america - Page 2

Mausermolt · January 12, 2012, 12:55 PM

shot a calf elk with a sporter K98 this last season. it was a quartering shot facing me. went in the front shoulder and exited the rear hip. went clean through and dropped her like a 10 ton sack of dookie. 175 grn sierra game king over IMR 4064. 8mm mauser has my vote all the way. ive also shot about 9 wild Californian hogs with my original K98 all of them except 1 were 1 shot kills. this next year im going to give my mosin a go at a deer or elk.

3kgt2nv · January 12, 2012, 01:06 PM

i would pick a k31 in 7.5x55 very accurate, good power, milspec ammo shoots amazing.

Mausermolt · January 12, 2012, 01:46 PM

have fun finding bullets for the k31 that are legal to hunt with

CowTowner · January 12, 2012, 01:57 PM

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have fun finding bullets for the k31 that are legal to hunt with

That shouldn't be to difficult. According to this web site, http://207.36.233.89/shooting2006/sw...ing1/index.asp , they use a normal 7.62/.308 bullet.

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On the 7.5 X 55 bullet front, it’s all good news. The 7.5 X 55 Swiss round uses a “standard size” (standard size for the US and 7.62 NATO rounds) .308 (.30 caliber) diameter bullets. Readily available jacketed; or cast bullets from standard molds are the ticket for this cartridge.

This is an excerpt from that page linked above.

Mausermolt · January 12, 2012, 03:46 PM

well ya learn somethin every day dont ya

rr2241tx · January 12, 2012, 05:33 PM

1903A3 would be my choice. Best sights, light, handy, not too many game animals in NA can carry a 180gr .30-06 bullet very far. Might carry a .22 revolver in case we were charged by a coastal brown bear so I could kneecap the guide.

emcon5 · January 12, 2012, 06:23 PM

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have fun finding bullets for the k31 that are legal to hunt with

You won't find ammo at Wal-Mart, but it isn't exactly difficult to find.

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/341...oint-box-of-20

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/241...oint-box-of-20

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/407...oint-box-of-20

http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/...productId/6889

http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/...productId/6895

FairWarning · January 12, 2012, 08:57 PM

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have fun finding bullets for the k31 that are legal to hunt with

You can get excellent Norma ammo for the K31 with ease (I didn't say cheap!).

Hard to resist the Mauser considering Sellior & Bellot 8mm SPs are $18/box.....

FairWarning · January 12, 2012, 09:12 PM

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I did 8x57 Mauser for a couple years. Using 196gr S&B cartridges, I didn't think that there was anything it couldn't stop, although I'm not a bear hunter.

Oh yeah, the 196s are TANKS.

My favorite 8mm round is the discontinued Norma 165 gr Vulcan Point (hollow point) at 2855 fps. Too bad they are so rare now...almost too precious to shoot. But the 8mm loves 196 gr bullets anyway, so no biggie.

Jo6pak · January 12, 2012, 09:20 PM

Lots of very good choices. I'll add to the votes for the 6.5x55 Swede and 8mm Mauser

Water-Man · January 12, 2012, 09:34 PM

6.5x55 SE.

firewrench044 · January 12, 2012, 10:18 PM

1903 or 1903A3 Spingfield
The 30-06 cartrage is available everywhere and in so many bullet weights and types

Colonel Custer · January 13, 2012, 12:45 AM

I have 2 Mosins (m44, 91-30) and a 1891 Argentine Mauser. I would feel comfortable hunting any thing 800 lbs or less with any of them reguardless of the ammo.

Never fired any 6.5, or 7.62x51 (308), or 303's so Idk about them.

radom · January 13, 2012, 01:06 AM

I tend to like the 8mm too.

emcon5 · January 13, 2012, 01:32 AM

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I have 2 Mosins (m44, 91-30) and a 1891 Argentine Mauser. I would feel comfortable hunting any thing 800 lbs or less with any of them reguardless of the ammo.

Why do you say that? I think a M44 or M38 would also make a fine hunting rifle, assuming the accuracy was there, for the same reasons as the Enfield Jungle Carbine. Reasonably light, handy rifle, potent cartridge.

Granted, the sights kind of suck......

TX Hunter · January 13, 2012, 11:07 AM

Out of my collection my 1903 A3 would be my choice. But any of them would work fine. I can hit well with my Yugo 24 47 too.

Mike1234 · January 13, 2012, 01:52 PM

Is this question born of curiousity, necessity or Mil-Surp lust?

thedaddycat · January 13, 2012, 03:53 PM

You can find mil-surp in a lot of flavors. 6.5X55, 7X57, and 8X57 Mauser, .303 Brit in a bunch of different Enfields, .30-06 in '03 Springfield, M-17 Enfield, M1 Garand and 1941 Johnson rifles, .30-40 Krag, .308, 7.62X54R, even 7.62X39 though that would be a bit light for the bigger game animals. Pick the chambering yoiu want and get a rifle to shoot it with. The .30-06 has been around for over a century and has taken just about everything in NA and most of the others have as well.

oneounceload · January 13, 2012, 04:29 PM

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You can find mil-surp in a lot of flavors. 6.5X55, 7X57, and 8X57 Mauser

IMO, those three are the best of the best (outside of the 30-06)

Willie Sutton · January 31, 2012, 11:22 AM

Sleeper: FN Model 1949, in any of three calibers: 7x57, 8x57, or .30-06

(1) Not an assault rifle by any definitions anywhere in the USA. It's even California legal AFAIK.

(2) Excellent quality and accuracy.

(3): Predecessor mechanically of the later FN-FAL.

7mm ones are typically FN Manufactured and were South American issue, meaning GORGEOUS wood. The Argentine Army might suck at fighting, but their Italian heritage means that they bought guns that looked great on the parade ground ...

8mm ones are typically NOT made by FN in Belgium, but were made in Egypt under license. More common... functional... <but> 'Made in Egypt'

.30-06 ones are usually either Belgian or Luxembourg army surplus. ABL markings on them = Belgium. Wonderful rifles. All were made by Fabrique Nationale (FN) in Herstal, Belgium.

Always a favorite.

Willie

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COSteve · January 31, 2012, 11:47 AM

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Any of the WWI/WWII cartridges will do fine. The exception is charging grizzly, that's .45-70 territory.

Well ................................ I might take exception on carbines like the M1 Carbine as well as the M1 Thompson and and M2 Grease gun submachine guns, but as far as battle rifles go, you're probably right.

pelo801 · January 31, 2012, 11:34 PM

not near as popular as some of the other ones mentioned, but i think the 8 x 56 would do well

Colonel Custer · February 2, 2012, 08:04 AM

I hunt white tail deer in Ky. I only use milsurp rifles. I have 2 Mosins and an Argentine Mauser 7.65x53. Something nostalgic about firing a bolt action rifle that was carried by people for over 70+ years. I find it enjoyable and seldom finish Deer season hungry!

FrederickDav · February 2, 2012, 09:21 AM

I had to give up hunting a few years ago but, if I could go again and if I could get the ammunition , my Arisaka in 7.7Jap would be an interesting choice. It's about as close to being a "tack driver" as any. The only real problem is if you can find ammo, it cost an arm and a foot.

Chris_B · February 2, 2012, 10:04 PM

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Might carry a .22 revolver in case we were charged by a coastal brown bear so I could kneecap the guide.

January 12, 2012, 12:55 PM	#26
Mausermolt Senior Member Join Date: June 16, 2007 Location: Ory-gun Posts: 414	shot a calf elk with a sporter K98 this last season. it was a quartering shot facing me. went in the front shoulder and exited the rear hip. went clean through and dropped her like a 10 ton sack of dookie. 175 grn sierra game king over IMR 4064. 8mm mauser has my vote all the way. ive also shot about 9 wild Californian hogs with my original K98 all of them except 1 were 1 shot kills. this next year im going to give my mosin a go at a deer or elk. __________________ Live your life green...O.D. Green

January 12, 2012, 01:46 PM	#28
Mausermolt Senior Member Join Date: June 16, 2007 Location: Ory-gun Posts: 414	have fun finding bullets for the k31 that are legal to hunt with __________________ Live your life green...O.D. Green

January 12, 2012, 03:46 PM	#30
Mausermolt Senior Member Join Date: June 16, 2007 Location: Ory-gun Posts: 414	well ya learn somethin every day dont ya __________________ Live your life green...O.D. Green

January 12, 2012, 05:33 PM	#31
rr2241tx Senior Member Join Date: August 2, 2007 Location: The Great State of Taxes Posts: 260	1903A3 would be my choice. Best sights, light, handy, not too many game animals in NA can carry a 180gr .30-06 bullet very far. Might carry a .22 revolver in case we were charged by a coastal brown bear so I could kneecap the guide. __________________ rr2241tx

January 12, 2012, 09:20 PM	#35
Jo6pak Senior Member Join Date: August 5, 2010 Location: West Coast...of WI Posts: 1,144	Lots of very good choices. I'll add to the votes for the 6.5x55 Swede and 8mm Mauser __________________ NRA Life Member, SAF contributor.

January 12, 2012, 01:06 PM	#27
3kgt2nv Senior Member Join Date: January 7, 2012 Location: hudson valley NY Posts: 465	i would pick a k31 in 7.5x55 very accurate, good power, milspec ammo shoots amazing.

January 12, 2012, 09:34 PM	#36
Water-Man Senior Member Join Date: March 23, 2008 Location: N. Georgia & S. Florida Posts: 1,217	6.5x55 SE. __________________ PROUD TO BE A VETERAN " The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing." - Socrates

January 12, 2012, 10:18 PM	#37
firewrench044 Senior Member Join Date: July 9, 2007 Location: Fort Pierce, Florida Posts: 178	1903 or 1903A3 Spingfield The 30-06 cartrage is available everywhere and in so many bullet weights and types

January 13, 2012, 12:45 AM	#38
Colonel Custer Senior Member Join Date: November 23, 2011 Location: ky Posts: 106	Uggh I'm torn on this issue I have 2 Mosins (m44, 91-30) and a 1891 Argentine Mauser. I would feel comfortable hunting any thing 800 lbs or less with any of them reguardless of the ammo. Never fired any 6.5, or 7.62x51 (308), or 303's so Idk about them. __________________ In order to cut down on gun crimes we The Govt. are banning all guns. Well I guess I will sleep with a chainsaw next to my bed. Not the same as a gun but I figure the sound of it revving up will be as effective as a pump shot gun being cycled.

January 13, 2012, 01:06 AM	#39
radom Senior Member Join Date: January 21, 2000 Posts: 1,270	I tend to like the 8mm too. Last edited by radom; January 13, 2012 at 07:15 AM.

January 13, 2012, 11:07 AM	#41
TX Hunter Senior Member Join Date: February 11, 2010 Location: East Texas USA Posts: 1,755	Out of my collection my 1903 A3 would be my choice. But any of them would work fine. I can hit well with my Yugo 24 47 too.

January 13, 2012, 01:52 PM	#42
Mike1234 Senior Member Join Date: June 30, 2010 Location: Alamo City Posts: 225	Why Mil-Surp Specifically? Is this question born of curiousity, necessity or Mil-Surp lust?

January 13, 2012, 03:53 PM	#43
thedaddycat Senior Member Join Date: September 25, 2011 Posts: 388	You can find mil-surp in a lot of flavors. 6.5X55, 7X57, and 8X57 Mauser, .303 Brit in a bunch of different Enfields, .30-06 in '03 Springfield, M-17 Enfield, M1 Garand and 1941 Johnson rifles, .30-40 Krag, .308, 7.62X54R, even 7.62X39 though that would be a bit light for the bigger game animals. Pick the chambering yoiu want and get a rifle to shoot it with. The .30-06 has been around for over a century and has taken just about everything in NA and most of the others have as well.

January 31, 2012, 11:22 AM	#45
Willie Sutton Junior member Join Date: January 26, 2012 Posts: 1,066	Sleeper: FN Model 1949, in any of three calibers: 7x57, 8x57, or .30-06 (1) Not an assault rifle by any definitions anywhere in the USA. It's even California legal AFAIK. (2) Excellent quality and accuracy. (3): Predecessor mechanically of the later FN-FAL. 7mm ones are typically FN Manufactured and were South American issue, meaning GORGEOUS wood. The Argentine Army might suck at fighting, but their Italian heritage means that they bought guns that looked great on the parade ground ... 8mm ones are typically NOT made by FN in Belgium, but were made in Egypt under license. More common... functional... <but> 'Made in Egypt' .30-06 ones are usually either Belgian or Luxembourg army surplus. ABL markings on them = Belgium. Wonderful rifles. All were made by Fabrique Nationale (FN) in Herstal, Belgium. Always a favorite. Willie .

January 31, 2012, 11:34 PM	#47
pelo801 Senior Member Join Date: January 9, 2009 Posts: 550	not near as popular as some of the other ones mentioned, but i think the 8 x 56 would do well

February 2, 2012, 08:04 AM	#48
Colonel Custer Senior Member Join Date: November 23, 2011 Location: ky Posts: 106	My $.02 worth I hunt white tail deer in Ky. I only use milsurp rifles. I have 2 Mosins and an Argentine Mauser 7.65x53. Something nostalgic about firing a bolt action rifle that was carried by people for over 70+ years. I find it enjoyable and seldom finish Deer season hungry! __________________ In order to cut down on gun crimes we The Govt. are banning all guns. Well I guess I will sleep with a chainsaw next to my bed. Not the same as a gun but I figure the sound of it revving up will be as effective as a pump shot gun being cycled.

February 2, 2012, 09:21 AM	#49
FrederickDav Member Join Date: December 29, 2011 Location: Michigan Posts: 27	I had to give up hunting a few years ago but, if I could go again and if I could get the ammunition , my Arisaka in 7.7Jap would be an interesting choice. It's about as close to being a "tack driver" as any. The only real problem is if you can find ammo, it cost an arm and a foot.