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Old January 7, 2012, 01:29 PM   #1
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Silencer on a Revolver?

I know it is basically impossible to fully suppress a revolver because of the cylinder gap. But I've been thinking about how loud .357 magnum is, which got me thinking about suppressors...


Assuming you could attach the suppressor to the barrel of a Smith and Wesson 686, would the suppressor make it significantly quieter? Do you think it would take away that ear breaking "crack" the .357 magnum is known for?
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Old January 7, 2012, 01:40 PM   #2
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The 'crack' is the sonic crack from the supersonic bullet. You'll get that with any supersonic round, suppressed or not. But, it would still make it much quieter, just not movie silencer quiet.
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Old January 7, 2012, 01:45 PM   #3
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The 'crack' is the sonic crack from the supersonic bullet. You'll get that with any supersonic round, suppressed or not. But, it would still make it much quieter, just not movie silencer quiet.
The .357 Magnum just seems to have a noise that is unlike any other supersonic round. One that really just pierces the ears...
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Old January 7, 2012, 01:50 PM   #4
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you think the 357 is loud....my .30 carbine blackhawk is louder...talk about ear piercing crack..
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Old January 7, 2012, 01:53 PM   #5
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The bullet remains supersonic, so do the gases coming out the B/C gap.
A suppressor will reduce the sound slightly, but not much.
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Old January 7, 2012, 02:03 PM   #6
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That's where the noise is going. Go to the range and turn the lights out, or find a safe place where you can shoot at night. Have someone else shoot the 357 while you stand at the side and watch. Notice where most of the flash comes from.

I think it will only work on TV.
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Old January 7, 2012, 02:18 PM   #7
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Suppressors exert a bit of back pressure on the gas stream like the muffler on your car - same concept. If it doesn't go out the muzzle it will come out where there is an opening - the cylinder gap.
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Old January 7, 2012, 02:50 PM   #8
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I suppose you could rig a shroud of some kind over the cylinder gap. Maybe extend the shroud into a large can type silencer.

It'd sure look goofy though.
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Old January 7, 2012, 02:55 PM   #9
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If my memory is correct i saw a nagant (spelling?) revolver that was suppressed online somewhere. I believe the cylinder on that revolver slides forward to close the gap at the forcing cone.

Edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvF4yurWSc0 here it is. I'm deaf so i cant tell if it works or not but i knew i remembered seeing it lol.
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Old January 7, 2012, 04:27 PM   #10
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when i was a kid i had a cap gun revolver with a silencer...it was so cool,it was called THE GHOST or something like that...
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Old January 8, 2012, 02:28 PM   #11
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Here's a pic and a little background on a fully supressed S&W Model 625.

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2...ssed-revolver/

It appears to have been manufactured in Germany (circa 1993) for one of their Swat Teams.

Notice the doors that cover the cylinder and B/C Gap.

Pretty cool (if your in to this kind of stuff).
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Old January 8, 2012, 02:57 PM   #12
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I would love to see the holster that thing goes in lol but it is pretty cool.
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Old January 8, 2012, 03:09 PM   #13
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I think any type of silcencer in Texas is illegal. Don't know about other states.
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Old January 8, 2012, 03:20 PM   #14
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I think any type of silcencer in Texas is illegal. Don't know about other states.
How about a loudener? http://youtu.be/-WKM9GDuX0Y
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Old January 8, 2012, 06:03 PM   #15
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I think any type of silcencer in Texas is illegal. Don't know about other states.
You think wrong.
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Old January 8, 2012, 07:31 PM   #16
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I think any type of silcencer in Texas is illegal. Don't know about other states.
TX law says silencers are illegal for civilians, but registration is an affirmative defense to prosecution. So if you possess a silencer in TX, you can be arrested, but if you show them the registration form, they can not prosecute you. I have never heard of anyone in TX that was arrested for silencer possession as long as they had their registration form with them. The ATF routinely authorizes transfer of silencers in TX to anyone who fills out the forms correctly.

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It really chaps my ass when someone says on a gun forum that any certain type of gun is illegal, but cannot be bothered to supply a link to support their claim.

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Old January 8, 2012, 07:38 PM   #17
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Assuming you could attach the suppressor to the barrel of a Smith and Wesson 686, would the suppressor make it significantly quieter? Do you think it would take away that ear breaking "crack" the .357 magnum is known for?
A silencer will reduce the muzzle blast noise, but will do nothing for the supersonic bullet's whip cracking sound and it might increase the blast noise from the cylinder gap.

Here is a video explaining how a gas seal revolver like the 1895 Nagant works. This revolver is about double the power of a 22lr, less than a 38 Special, so it is rather lame compared to the 357 magnum.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGoPE7VQ9GY



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Old January 8, 2012, 07:42 PM   #18
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I guess the soviets used the silenced nagants during WWII. If you google it you should be able to find a good amount of info on it. Its called the "Bramit" device.
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Old January 8, 2012, 08:14 PM   #19
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There was a special silenced Ruger revolver, forgot the model. It was written up in one of the Gun Digest annuals about assault weapons and made an appearance of the X-Files TV show. All I remember.
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Old January 8, 2012, 08:30 PM   #20
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Google "QSPR", Quiet Special Purpose Revolver ...... developed for the "tunnel rats" in Viet Nam c. 1969 ....

There was also a version of the Mosin Nagant revolver that as equipped with a suppressor.
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Old January 8, 2012, 09:32 PM   #21
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The special purpose revolver developed for tunnel rats was not suppressed. The ammunition itself fully contained the gasses. Buckshot was used. The N Frame Smith and Wesson was short barreled and smooth bored.
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Old January 8, 2012, 10:07 PM   #22
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The special purpose revolver developed for tunnel rats was not suppressed.
OK ......

This must be something different, then.....
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Old January 8, 2012, 10:08 PM   #23
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Just poking around on the net, it seems the Rooskis loved them some supressed wheelguns ....
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Old January 8, 2012, 10:54 PM   #24
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I have never been fond of the muzzle blast of 357's. I just bought a 44 Mag. It goes boom where the 357 goes crack and is much more tolerable to me.
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Old January 8, 2012, 11:00 PM   #25
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You want a silenced revolver...

Here ya' go.

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