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Old September 26, 2012, 06:01 PM   #1
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New Remington 1100?

Hey everybody! Today at gander mountain I saw a new Rem 1100 for $700. Are the new 1100s as nice and reliable as the old ones? Do they shoot 3" shells or still 2.75"? Are they made in the USA (I say this because I hear the new 870s are made in china not sure if it's true or not)? Is this a good buy for the price? Thanks
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Old September 26, 2012, 09:45 PM   #2
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The ones I looked at were nice, but a satin finish rather than the polished finish of the Sporting Models. They were not rough like the Expresses. 2-3/4" only. If I wanted a hunting 100, or one to shoot clay pigeons, I wouldn't hesitate. All the 1100s, and the 870s, are still made in the USA, not China.
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Old September 28, 2012, 07:53 AM   #3
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Remington 870's are still made in America. The H&R Pardner (an 870 clone) is made by Qiqihar Hawk Industries Co. Ltd, a Chinese company. That might be what you heard about.
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Old September 28, 2012, 08:19 AM   #4
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There's also a Ithaca clone imported, no connection with the New Ithaca Gun Co..

The Winchester 1200's were built on a cost bassis, that is how to build a shotgun as inexpensive as possible.

The Ithaca clone from China makes a Winchester 1200 look like a British bespoke gun!!!
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Old September 28, 2012, 11:15 AM   #5
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the current crop of 1100's are every bit as good as the previous models...
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Old September 28, 2012, 11:22 AM   #6
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But let's be honest here....not that the 1100's were bad guns....but it isn't like the 1100's are current technology either...and they do require a lot of maintenance if you expect them to operated reliably ( and its not difficult to do ...it just has to be done --- and most guys I see at the range today aren't really into maintaining their semi-autos ) the way they should.

...especially when compared to the new crop of gas guns ...from Beretta or Browning-Winchester ---where they have much improved gas systems.
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Old September 28, 2012, 05:39 PM   #7
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The 1100 technology is not new. But, in 49 years I have yet to find a gun I like better. I have run thru a boatload trying. (SxSs don't factor into this discussion.)
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Old September 28, 2012, 06:27 PM   #8
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What we like ..is hard to quantify ...( and I don't want a gas gun ) ....but if I did there are a number of offerings from Beretta....

like this parallel comb - gold target for around $ 1,500

http://www.berettausa.com/products/a...gold-sporting/

or maybe this one ..but I don't like the angled comb on it...
http://www.berettausa.com/products/a...-tgt12/30/obs/

or I might give this a try ....
http://www.berettausa.com/products/a...rget-kick-off/

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but right now - in semi-autos I'll settle for Benelli Super sport models I have one in 12ga and one in a 20ga....both really versatile...

http://www.benelliusa.com/shotguns/b...nd-sport-2.php

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but it depends on what the OP likes ...not what I like ....
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Old September 28, 2012, 06:42 PM   #9
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I would choose an 1100 over any Beretta. Lord knows, I've owned a ton of both. The Beretta is a great autoloader, but the complicated design of the gas system is downright stupid. Especially the 391 series. The 1100 is a dream to maintain. I just finished cleaning my LT-20 this afternoon. A snap for sure! But they both pale when it comes to an inertia driven Benelli. It's all a matter of choice...
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Old September 28, 2012, 07:20 PM   #10
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Thanks everyone for your help! Has anyone tried to use 3" shells on a nonmagnum 1100 receiver with the steel shot barrel Remington makes? I think I'm going to get an 1100 and get one of these barrels so I can use a 3" shell for duck and goose hunting. If you have used this barrel please give me some input on it. In curious to know how well it works
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Old September 29, 2012, 09:51 AM   #11
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They work fine. I used one for years with no problems. The powder in Steel shells burns dirty and it will gun up the 1100's gas system quicker than regular loads. Add a little water and you get a real mess.

The Beretta 390 / 3901 has a simple gas system that is very easy to maintain. One solid stainless piston. I dont know why they changed it in the 391. A solution in search of a problem I guess.
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Old September 29, 2012, 10:12 AM   #12
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Thanks for your reply. I think this is what I'll do then. Did you use the 3" shells on the non magnum receiver? Or did u just use 2 3/4 steel loads?
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Old September 29, 2012, 12:48 PM   #13
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Regular 2.75" reciever, 3" steel.
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Old September 29, 2012, 02:49 PM   #14
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Thank you for all your help! Now, I apologize for bugging you but what is the biggest size shot you can use through this barrel? Like #2? Or what? Again thanks and I promise this is my final question for you (sorry for bothering you about this I'm just very curious)
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Old September 29, 2012, 03:50 PM   #15
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You can shoot "00" or slugs or whatever ...depending on what choke you put in..../ you never go tighter than Modified Choke with Steel shot ...there are choke restrictions...

I ran some " OO " buck thru my .410 O/U recently -- just for the heck of it.
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Old September 29, 2012, 03:50 PM   #16
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No size restriction Im aware of. I shoot #3's most of the time.
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Old September 30, 2012, 02:06 PM   #17
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I have had a Remington Steel Shot barrel for over 20 years. I used it on a 2-3/4" 1963 gun receiver for about the first 17 years, then I retired the old girl to clays duty only and bought a "new" 1966 Magnum for waterfowl. My steel barrel was a very early one and I had to enlarge the gas port. Remington said for me to do it because they knew me and trusted me back then. Worked fine ever since - the newer one have the bigger port. Steel was rapidly evolving back then. You can basically shoot whatever you want. Remington makes a flush Steel rated RemChoke, and it works. I haven't shot steel since tungsten arrived, but the barrel works great with anything as long as it is powerful enough - in essence no wimp loads. The geese in Manitoba and more than a few ducks would agree if they could.
Steel isn't dirty. Blue Dot is dirty. I have no issues up to 50 or so rounds and it isn't dirty much by then. I clean any gun after I shoot and I don't shoot that much at a stretch.
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Old October 1, 2012, 01:25 PM   #18
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I've shot #7 1/2 and 8 birdshot through mine, as well as 00 Buck and even rifled slugs. Never had any issue with it.

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Old October 2, 2012, 12:32 AM   #19
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the current crop of 1100's are every bit as good as the previous models...
That's if you're lucky to get one built on tooling that's not worn out by employees that give a crap on that particular day... I don't trust Remington to get it right the first time anymore.. Too much personal experience with Q/C problems with recent guns to want to give them any more of my money...
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Old October 2, 2012, 09:56 AM   #20
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I have seen occasional issues with newer Remingtons, and everything else. We are in the Harvard Business School cycle of spend less on in house QA/QC, and if they say it, it is gospel. I have seen no issues with an 1100; mostly Expresses. Upon reflection, I haven't seen any issues with any Weatherbys. They seem to control the end product pretty well with their management, but they change who they are having build shotguns for them too often to suit me.
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Old October 2, 2012, 11:00 AM   #21
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Here's what I think !

1100 are great guns , I own a couple !
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Old October 2, 2012, 01:32 PM   #22
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yeah,what he said. eastbank.
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