Are the "VALUE " O/U shotguns made in turkey holding up?

LSU Snapperhead · December 29, 2011, 11:16 PM

I only go skeet/trap shooting about 5/6 times per year. I use a 870 and would like to get an entry level O/U. (Only kind that will fit my budget)I wanted to buy a Yildiz or Stoeger about 6 years ago, but I wanted to wait and see if one stood the test of time better than the others. So if you have one of the turkey made guns, is it doing the job? Would you buy another one?

Thanks

seansean1444 · December 29, 2011, 11:18 PM

if im correct my savage stevens 512 goldwing is made in turkey and i have had it for a year and love it

oneounceload · December 29, 2011, 11:23 PM

"Made in Turkey" is too broad - that would be similar to asking if guns made in the US are holding up. Comparing a Lorcin to a Colt might make that confusing.

If you are talking about the guns made by Huglu, that is one thing. I have a Turkish SxS made for S&W. These were made by another firm and are a great deal and are made very well. The Huglu's - no matter whose name are on them - have been hit and miss. They appear to be making some inroads to their quality issues, but I cannot say for certain that they have them resolved. For everyone who says he has 10,000 through his Huglu, there are two others who didn't make 100 before issues.

At least with the Huglus badged for CZ, you have CZ standing behind them

LSU Snapperhead · December 29, 2011, 11:32 PM

How about "Made in turkey and sold for about $400-$600." I am wondering if one is far and away better. I understand that you get what you pay for.

Thanks

hopper810 · December 30, 2011, 07:13 AM

Check into the Lanber's from CDNN. http://www.cdnninvestments.com/ you will need to download their catalog. the Lanber's are on page 65

M4BGRINGO · December 30, 2011, 11:05 PM

I shoot with a guy that has a Huglu and it has been perfect for him.

That being said, why don't you like the 870? I have done very well with my wifes 870 with both Trap and Sporting Clays shooting, just as well as I do with a very nice Browning O/U I bought for myself. My Rem 1100 has less recoil, but I shoot better with her 870. Finally getting used to my Browning, but still shoot very well with her 870.

LSU Snapperhead · December 30, 2011, 11:21 PM

I love my 870, I am just wanting a over and under.

tahoe2 · December 31, 2011, 12:46 AM

5 or 6 times a year? I would expect any reasonably priced firearm to perform
for a lifetime at that pace.
That said, I have a Kahn Arthemis 12 ga O/U ($400.00) that is 5 years old and has about 5000 rounds so far, still shoots great. I shoot standard target loads.
If I could afford it I would have a Beretta, or a Browning, I have shot both and they come to shoulder very nicely for me.
the Kahn is made in turkey and imported by CAI (Century Arms Intl)

Rugerismisticness · December 31, 2011, 10:17 AM

Lanber is the best way to go for an O/U, but I'm not saying an O/U is the best route for a multi purpose gun. Steoger is Brazilian, they're shotguns suck. The metal is soft and they just plain wear out in a hurry. The Steoger 3500 is made in turkey like most other steogers, I highly recommend it for turkeys and as a general purpose shotgun.

BigJimP · December 31, 2011, 01:19 PM

I can't recommend any of them ...sorry...

But it isn't just if they are holding up ....what are you going to do, if the one you buy....one barrel hits high and right about 6" and one barrel hits low about 8" ..( and it happens ) ....and then you have an expensive "paperweight"...

If you really want to do this ...and I don't think its a good plan ...at least look at guns that come with a long warranty like the TriStar sold thur Cabelas because it comes with a 5 yr warranty / I still think they're less than acceptable but it'll give you something to lean on ...

I know you want an O/U ....but seriously, are you really going to be happy with a gun that won't hold up, or the barrels aren't regulated properly, or parts break ..../ if you really want an O/U -- I'd seriously suggest saving your money until you can afford a decent used Browning or Beretta....some of the older Browning Citori Lightning models, with the old short screw in Invector chokes ...especially if they need a little stock re-finishing can be purchased for around $ 600 - $ 750 and then you'll have a gun you can be proud of for many years. It just makes more sense to me....and in the meantme shoot the 870 / or pick up a semi-auto if you want something different.

Decent guns ...cost money / and its only my opinion ...but these "look alikes" from these Turkish and other companies ...are just taking your money ...because they know you "want" an O/U ...and I don't think its worth it ...not even in the short term.

TheKlawMan · December 31, 2011, 01:36 PM

You can't go by the anecdotal experiences of one or two guys, who may have gotten the rare problem free guns issued by a manufacture with a terrible failure rate.

zippy13 · December 31, 2011, 02:28 PM

If you're going to be shooting Trap and Skeet consider this: Continue using your 870 for Trap and get an "orphaned" O/U Skeet gun. These days, every one is talking about 30" barrels, adjustable stocks and screw-in chokes for sporting guns. You don't need them for Skeet. There are quality used old school target guns out there with 26" barrels and fixed Skeet chokes. Tons of targets were broken with these old war horses and one might be a perfect budget first O/U.

tahoe2 · January 1, 2012, 11:09 PM

every CZ/Huglu owner I have talked to seems to be satisfied with their guns,
but they have all been short term owners (2 yrs or less).

LSU Snapperhead · January 2, 2012, 11:47 AM

Thanks for the replies. I like the old Skeet gun idea Zippy,I might look into my options in that area.

later

.300 Weatherby Mag · January 2, 2012, 12:06 PM

Quote:

I can't recommend any of them ...sorry...

But it isn't just if they are holding up ....what are you going to do, if the one you buy....one barrel hits high and right about 6" and one barrel hits low about 8" ..( and it happens ) ....and then you have an expensive "paperweight"...

If you really want to do this ...and I don't think its a good plan ...at least look at guns that come with a long warranty like the TriStar sold thur Cabelas because it comes with a 5 yr warranty / I still think they're less than acceptable but it'll give you something to lean on ...

I know you want an O/U ....but seriously, are you really going to be happy with a gun that won't hold up, or the barrels aren't regulated properly, or parts break ..../ if you really want an O/U -- I'd seriously suggest saving your money until you can afford a decent used Browning or Beretta....some of the older Browning Citori Lightning models, with the old short screw in Invector chokes ...especially if they need a little stock re-finishing can be purchased for around $ 600 - $ 750 and then you'll have a gun you can be proud of for many years. It just makes more sense to me....and in the meantme shoot the 870 / or pick up a semi-auto if you want something different.

Decent guns ...cost money / and its only my opinion ...but these "look alikes" from these Turkish and other companies ...are just taking your money ...because they know you "want" an O/U ...and I don't think its worth it ...not even in the short term.

+1 on what Jim Said...

Personally, the cheapest I'd go on a new over/under would be the Browning Citori Satin Hunter... Its a one heck of a deal on a quality shotgun at $1295.. I would not waste my time on anything made in Turkey which the exception of CZ/Huglu...

December 29, 2011, 11:16 PM	#1
LSU Snapperhead Member Join Date: March 1, 2009 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 30	Are the "VALUE " O/U shotguns made in turkey holding up? I only go skeet/trap shooting about 5/6 times per year. I use a 870 and would like to get an entry level O/U. (Only kind that will fit my budget)I wanted to buy a Yildiz or Stoeger about 6 years ago, but I wanted to wait and see if one stood the test of time better than the others. So if you have one of the turkey made guns, is it doing the job? Would you buy another one? Thanks

December 29, 2011, 11:32 PM	#4
LSU Snapperhead Member Join Date: March 1, 2009 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 30	OK How about "Made in turkey and sold for about $400-$600." I am wondering if one is far and away better. I understand that you get what you pay for. Thanks

December 30, 2011, 07:13 AM	#5
hopper810 Member Join Date: November 3, 2009 Location: East Tx Posts: 57	Check into the Lanber's from CDNN. http://www.cdnninvestments.com/ you will need to download their catalog. the Lanber's are on page 65 __________________ Jerry

December 29, 2011, 11:18 PM	#2
seansean1444 Senior Member Join Date: November 28, 2010 Location: ithaca, new york (home of the ithaca shotguns!) Posts: 371	if im correct my savage stevens 512 goldwing is made in turkey and i have had it for a year and love it

December 29, 2011, 11:23 PM	#3
oneounceload Junior member Join Date: April 18, 2008 Location: N. Central Florida Posts: 8,518	"Made in Turkey" is too broad - that would be similar to asking if guns made in the US are holding up. Comparing a Lorcin to a Colt might make that confusing. If you are talking about the guns made by Huglu, that is one thing. I have a Turkish SxS made for S&W. These were made by another firm and are a great deal and are made very well. The Huglu's - no matter whose name are on them - have been hit and miss. They appear to be making some inroads to their quality issues, but I cannot say for certain that they have them resolved. For everyone who says he has 10,000 through his Huglu, there are two others who didn't make 100 before issues. At least with the Huglus badged for CZ, you have CZ standing behind them

December 30, 2011, 11:05 PM	#6
M4BGRINGO Senior Member Join Date: March 22, 2011 Posts: 242	I shoot with a guy that has a Huglu and it has been perfect for him. That being said, why don't you like the 870? I have done very well with my wifes 870 with both Trap and Sporting Clays shooting, just as well as I do with a very nice Browning O/U I bought for myself. My Rem 1100 has less recoil, but I shoot better with her 870. Finally getting used to my Browning, but still shoot very well with her 870.

December 30, 2011, 11:21 PM	#7
LSU Snapperhead Member Join Date: March 1, 2009 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 30	I love my 870, I am just wanting a over and under.

December 31, 2011, 12:46 AM	#8
tahoe2 Senior Member Join Date: August 13, 2011 Location: Seattle area Posts: 371	5 or 6 times a year? I would expect any reasonably priced firearm to perform for a lifetime at that pace. That said, I have a Kahn Arthemis 12 ga O/U ($400.00) that is 5 years old and has about 5000 rounds so far, still shoots great. I shoot standard target loads. If I could afford it I would have a Beretta, or a Browning, I have shot both and they come to shoulder very nicely for me. the Kahn is made in turkey and imported by CAI (Century Arms Intl)

December 31, 2011, 10:17 AM	#9
Rugerismisticness Senior Member Join Date: December 22, 2010 Posts: 905	Lanber is the best way to go for an O/U, but I'm not saying an O/U is the best route for a multi purpose gun. Steoger is Brazilian, they're shotguns suck. The metal is soft and they just plain wear out in a hurry. The Steoger 3500 is made in turkey like most other steogers, I highly recommend it for turkeys and as a general purpose shotgun.

December 31, 2011, 01:19 PM	#10
BigJimP Senior Member Join Date: February 23, 2005 Posts: 9,953	I can't recommend any of them ...sorry... But it isn't just if they are holding up ....what are you going to do, if the one you buy....one barrel hits high and right about 6" and one barrel hits low about 8" ..( and it happens ) ....and then you have an expensive "paperweight"... If you really want to do this ...and I don't think its a good plan ...at least look at guns that come with a long warranty like the TriStar sold thur Cabelas because it comes with a 5 yr warranty / I still think they're less than acceptable but it'll give you something to lean on ... I know you want an O/U ....but seriously, are you really going to be happy with a gun that won't hold up, or the barrels aren't regulated properly, or parts break ..../ if you really want an O/U -- I'd seriously suggest saving your money until you can afford a decent used Browning or Beretta....some of the older Browning Citori Lightning models, with the old short screw in Invector chokes ...especially if they need a little stock re-finishing can be purchased for around $ 600 - $ 750 and then you'll have a gun you can be proud of for many years. It just makes more sense to me....and in the meantme shoot the 870 / or pick up a semi-auto if you want something different. Decent guns ...cost money / and its only my opinion ...but these "look alikes" from these Turkish and other companies ...are just taking your money ...because they know you "want" an O/U ...and I don't think its worth it ...not even in the short term.

December 31, 2011, 01:36 PM	#11
TheKlawMan Junior member Join Date: June 23, 2009 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 2,150	You can't go by the anecdotal experiences of one or two guys, who may have gotten the rare problem free guns issued by a manufacture with a terrible failure rate.

December 31, 2011, 02:28 PM	#12
zippy13 Senior Member Join Date: August 23, 2008 Location: SoCal Posts: 6,281	If you're going to be shooting Trap and Skeet consider this: Continue using your 870 for Trap and get an "orphaned" O/U Skeet gun. These days, every one is talking about 30" barrels, adjustable stocks and screw-in chokes for sporting guns. You don't need them for Skeet. There are quality used old school target guns out there with 26" barrels and fixed Skeet chokes. Tons of targets were broken with these old war horses and one might be a perfect budget first O/U.

January 1, 2012, 11:09 PM	#13
tahoe2 Senior Member Join Date: August 13, 2011 Location: Seattle area Posts: 371	every CZ/Huglu owner I have talked to seems to be satisfied with their guns, but they have all been short term owners (2 yrs or less).

January 2, 2012, 11:47 AM	#14
LSU Snapperhead Member Join Date: March 1, 2009 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 30	Thanks for the replies. I like the old Skeet gun idea Zippy,I might look into my options in that area. later