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Old January 6, 2012, 07:47 AM   #1
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Manage match fees using PayPal

Receive Payments using PayPal for match fee and other
If you use http://shootnscoreit.com (SSI) for arranging / scoring / ... your USPSA/IPSC/Steel/IDPA/PPC match you can now allow all competitors to pay their match fee and any orders directly to you PayPal account online using their credit card/PayPal account. All this is fully integrated with your match shop in SSI (i.e. orders are marked as paid immediately and automatically when you have receive payment). For all details on how to configure this and use it read the SSI reference manual.

This will save lots and lots of time when you arrange a match and make it much easier and faster for shooters to pay their registration fees and other stuff they order from you.

EzWinScore for USPSA fully supported
SSI is now fully interoperable with EzWinScore - the official scoring software of USPSA. This means you can at any time export your USPSA match to EzWinScore from SSI as needed. You can perhaps only use SSI for easy match registration from the web, you can perhaps even define the complete match and stages in SSI or even do all scoring here - then you simply export all match info to EWS and use the features of this (perhaps import to USPSA.org for stats). This integration has been done in tight cooperation between the developers of EzWinScore and SSI and they are now both 1:1 scoring compatible. This means that if you have an existing installation of EWS and perhaps the Palm Pilot SW you can use this together with SSI.

Have a great new shooting year !

/ Jens
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Old January 6, 2012, 12:21 PM   #2
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Doesn't PayPal have a reputation for being an anti-gun organization?
If so, is it wise to support them?
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Old January 6, 2012, 12:27 PM   #3
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Doesn't PayPal have a reputation for being an anti-gun organization?
If so, is it wise to support them?
Exactly what I was thinking.
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Old January 8, 2012, 03:38 PM   #4
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Shoot'n Score It is just for arranging sporting events - sport shooting events - and you can use PayPal for match fees, lunch tickets, t-shirts...

Shoot'n Score It is NOT for selling/buying firearms or firearms parts (which is not ok under the PayPal Acceptable Use Policy). Guess this last part makes'em sort of anti-gun.

We do not make any statement or approve/disapprove on PayPals terms of use, it is only a very good and easy to use service that allows for payment integration and can be used worldwide. Unfortunately there is not really that many of those around that allows for this to be done.

mvh / Jens
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Old January 9, 2012, 09:43 AM   #5
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PayPal hates firearms I try my best not to support them.
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Old January 9, 2012, 10:21 AM   #6
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I do not like PPs position on firearms.
But if one were to boycot every business that had, or supported, views we did not agree with, we would be camped around a fire outside and chasing game with spears.
PP is a business that provides services I find very useful and I use them. Part of my use of them supports my views whether they like it or not.
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Old January 9, 2012, 01:17 PM   #7
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My thoughts were that you risk losing your account on PayPal by paying for firearms related goods and services. I believe their user agreement states that you can't use it for anything that pertains to firearms or even knives.

I had my account closed by PayPal for that very reason.
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Old January 9, 2012, 04:14 PM   #8
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response from PayPal

Hi,

I have now been exchanging some emails (see text below) and PayPal has confirmed it is ok to use them for Shoot'n Score It and match fees and other related merchandize regarding a sport shooting competition.

Note that PayPal states very explicit and clear in the acceptable use policy from PayPal that it can not be used for transactions for firearms, firearms parts or ammo (so you can not use it for match ammo in a competition).

I appreciate that all of you have expressed concern regarding the PayPal policy and I share it and will investigate other alternatives to add as payment methods that will complement PayPal and I will post info on this here to get your feedback (will investigate google wallet, amazon and some other),

I will during next week add the ability to state if a merchandize that you have created in SSI shall be included (default) or not in online Payment for competitors. This will allow you to create a match shop for your event including e.g. match ammo and lots of other stuff but to have match ammo excluded from the online payment (and then you need to handle this separately offline).

/ Jens

---- email conversation w. PayPal below -----
[extract]
Dear Jens Lundstrom,

Thank you for contacting PayPal with your concern regarding your website
and the PayPal Acceptable Use Policy.

After review of your website, we show that this site, as it currently
exists, would not be in violation of our Acceptable Use Policy.
Therefore, you would be able to use PayPal as your payment processor.

We appreciate your cooperation and thank you for your prompt attention
to this matter. If you have any further questions or need our support,
please contact the PayPal Brand Risk Management Department at
euaup@paypal.co.uk.

Sincerely,
Sean
PayPal, Brand Risk Management
--------------------------------------------------
Copyright © ####-#### PayPal. All rights reserved.
Consumer advisory: PayPal Pte. Ltd., the holder of PayPal’s stored value
facility, does not require the approval of the Monetary Authority of
Singapore. Users are advised to read the terms and conditions carefully.


Responses to this email address are not monitored. Please send any
additional questions that you may have to euaup@paypal.co.uk.

Original Message Follows:
------------------------

Yes, I have read all these license and acceptable use agreements and
I just wanted confirmation that I have understood them correctly as
follows:

***

It is ok for me as organizer of a sport shooting competition using
Shoot'n Score It
http://shootnscoreit.com to receive payments for match fees, lunch
tickets, t-shirts
and other related merchandize that I sell in association with the sport
event
and receive payments to a PayPal account.

These merchandizes are not firearms or parts for firearms as this is not
allowed
under the acceptable use policy from PayPal.

***

Is this a correct interpretation of the acceptable use policy from
PayPal.

/ Jens Lundström



On # jan ####, at ##:##, <webform@intl.paypal.com>
<webform@intl.paypal.com> wrote:

Dear Jens Lundstrom,

Thank you for contacting PayPal regarding PayPals Acceptable Use
Policy.
PayPal has added an Acceptable Use Policy to the User Agreement to
further clarify items that may be sold using PayPal, as well as any
items sold or advertised on a website listed in PayPal Shops.
The Acceptable Use Policy highlights some of the legal
responsibilities buyers and sellers assume when transacting. Ultimately,
it is the responsibility of the buyers and sellers to ensure they are
compliant with all applicable laws. All customers will be required to
follow the guidelines set forth in the Acceptable Use Policy. Sellers
should also carefully read both eBay and PayPal guidelines if they plan
on using PayPal as their payment processor for eBay auctions,
shopfronts, and websites. Failure to comply with these policy changes
may result in limitations placed on your ability to use the PayPal
system.

To read the complete policy governing this category, please visit
www.paypal.com, click 'Legal Agreements' at the bottom of the page and
then select 'PayPal Acceptable Use Policy'.

It is my pleasure to assist you. Thank you for choosing PayPal.


Yours sincerely,
Dennis
PayPal

Copyright © ####-#### PayPal. All rights reserved.

PayPal (Europe) S.à r.l. et Cie, S.C.A.
Société en Commandite par Actions
Registered Office: ##-## Boulevard Royal L-####, Luxembourg
RCS Luxembourg B ### ###
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