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Old December 10, 2011, 03:51 PM   #1
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Good .22 Bolt-Gun

It's that time again! I just sold my 10/22, and plan on purchasing a good bolt-action .22lr. I am eying the following model:

Marlin XT-22TSR

Holds 17lr, is stainless, and a nice looking synthetic stock.

I have never owned a tube fed gun, but I think it would be a wise choice for a .22 rifle. I can shoot shorts, longs, and long rifles.

My price range is $300, but the lower the better Any bolt action .22 suggestions?

Tube vs. Magazine fed? What are your thoughts?
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Old December 10, 2011, 04:15 PM   #2
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I should note, I am not looking for a gun that I can buy a lot of accessories for, but instead a nice little gun that will hold up to a lot of use over the years.

So how is the build quality of this gun?
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Old December 10, 2011, 04:17 PM   #3
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The Savage Mk II always comes up in these discussions

It apparently has a nice, accurate barrel and a fine trigger, and will run well under your price range unless you opt for a top end model.

I have the CZ 455, worth a look if you have some flexibility in your budget.

Both are magazine fed, with 5 and 10 round options. I personally don't care about high capacity in a bolt gun. I don't care for tube fed. I know they have been fairly safe, I just prefer to keep my fingers from fiddling around the muzzle.
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Old December 10, 2011, 04:22 PM   #4
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It apparently has a nice, accurate barrel and a fine trigger, and will run well under your price range unless you opt for a top end model.
I think I can score one for $250, transfer fee included.

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I have the CZ 455, worth a look if you have some flexibility in your budget.
I would love to buy a CZ .22, but I cannot bring myself to buy one of their guns that only have a 5 round magazine, unless you can convince me otherwise. I would like a fairly large capacity.
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Old December 10, 2011, 04:52 PM   #5
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Cz has 10 shot mags and IMO you are doing yourself a disservice by ruling them out. The 452 is one of the best .22s for the buck. It is not a good .22, it is a good rifle period.
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Old December 10, 2011, 05:01 PM   #6
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^^^Agree wholeheartedly.
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Old December 10, 2011, 05:45 PM   #7
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A good bolt action .22LR

I can not quote a price but,
My 22+ year old Ruger 77-22 has been a good and accurate rifle.
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Old December 10, 2011, 05:50 PM   #8
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I have the Marlin 981T which I think is the xt's predecessor. Great feel, good trigger, and sub 1'' groups at 50 yards. Good enough for me.
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Old December 10, 2011, 05:54 PM   #9
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I have a CZ 452 Full stock that has been a perfect performer in every way. Little more than your budget but i promise, they are worth it and once you handle the FullSstock, you will buy it.
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Old December 10, 2011, 11:40 PM   #10
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I cannot seem to find the XT-22TSR anywhere I found one or two one some websites I had never heard of, but that isn't something I'd like to try.

I am very open to the CZ's, but Ido wish that they offered a stainless tube fed model.
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Old December 11, 2011, 12:09 AM   #11
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I would love to buy a CZ .22, but I cannot bring myself to buy one of their guns that only have a 5 round magazine, unless you can convince me otherwise. I would like a fairly large capacity.
The 10/22 fits your criteria; I realize that you just got rid of one.
You can make a tackdriver out of a 10/22 all that you need to do is to replace:
the barrel
the stock
the trigger
and you don't have to stop there if you don't want, I think that my 10/22 still says Ruger on it on one part... and it is a tackdriver (and I can use 25 round factory mags if my heart so desires; personally don't like what extended mags do to the balance and "handiness" of the rifle.)

Now, you could buy a CZ for less than the price of transforming a 10/22; and that is not including the price of the 10/22!

But really, why want a large capacity on a bolt? If you are looking for precision/accuracy...
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Old December 11, 2011, 12:10 AM   #12
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CZ hands down.
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Old December 11, 2011, 12:56 AM   #13
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Well, I am eying the 455 models. They are beautiful, no doubt. But there is something about the tubular stainless that catches my eye! Now, for all practical purposes, of course 5 rounds in a bolt action .22 is enough! However, I am also thinking about target shooting. Not just shooting at paper, but also physical targets. I like the idea of loading up 17lr rounds and having at it in a bolt action gun. I am going to try and go look at as many .22's as possible. The extra $50 or so for the CZ I am sure is worth it, I am just not sure if that's what I want. I repeat, I am positive that the CZ 452/455 is a wonderful gun, I just wish they made one with the specifications that catch my attention.

I very much do like the 455FS, it looks neat

The 455 Lux is a very beautiful gun. Dependant on what I can find locally and put my hands on, if I end up ordering a gun it will probably be a 455 variant. However, the XT-22TR (non-stainless of what I want) may catch my eye, and is less that $200 and can be found locally. I CANNOT figure out why the stainless version is so rare!
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Old December 11, 2011, 01:47 AM   #14
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I'll chuck out another suggestion: look at the Remington 51x model .22 bolt actions. Depending upon the specific model, they came in single shot or repeater bolt action. They are very accurate, and a joy to shoot.

They aren't made any longer, but they are not uncommon to find on Gunbroker; I have a pair of them, and they are my favorite .22 rifles.
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Old December 11, 2011, 02:40 AM   #15
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Just to confirm: CZ-455 has available 10 round mag

I own two. 452 and 455 mags interchangeable.

https://www.google.com/search?q=CZ+4...w=1440&bih=673
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Old December 11, 2011, 03:31 AM   #16
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Tube vs. Magazine fed? What are your thoughts?
Personally, I don't care for tubular magazine fed rifles, especially in .22lr, and here's why:

.22LR firearms are used many times to teach others to shoot. With a removable magazine, you know the gun is empty if the magazine is out and the bolt is locked back on an empty chamber. With tube mags, you can't see any ammo is left in the magazine.

Where I live in GA, I hunt on public lands much of the time. We are required have an unloaded rifle within 50yds of a road open for travel. With a removable magazine gun, I simply remove the magazine when needed. With a tubular magazine, you have to remove the magazine tube and pour out the cartridges, then load them in again when you are legal. It's a PITA.
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Old December 11, 2011, 06:00 AM   #17
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I was at Cabelas yesterday- bought a Savage Mark II-Nextgen Cabelas Exclusive. It has a 21" long bull barrel, camo stock, Bushnell scope and with an Accutrigger for $299.00 + tax. I was going to get the Marlin XT-22TR because of its new like and Accutrigger like trigger for $199.00 but it handles kind of flimsy to me. So I went home with the Savage. In the process of cleaning it before I take it to the range!

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Old December 11, 2011, 08:08 AM   #18
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+ 1 for the CZ's. I have 2 and both will shoot 1/2 inch 5 shot groups at 50 yards using Wolf or SK edge to edge. Three dollar a box Eley Sport is not much worse. A shooting buddy gave me a box of Eley Match black his BR gun did not like and the American shot 1 ragged holes with it.

If you just want large capacity get a Marlin 60, I have 1 in Stainless and it is nice to look at and reliable as heck. Accuracy is so so with Walmart bulk ammo but it can kill tin cans at 50 yards pretty well. I don't shoot it as much as I should, that tubular mag can be a pain as others have pointed out.

Another suggestion would be to check out some of the lever actions. I wish I still had my old Marlin 39A Mounty, dunno what possessed me to ever sell that gun.
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Old December 11, 2011, 08:21 AM   #19
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...Personally, I don't care for tubular magazine fed rifles, especially in .22lr, and here's why:

.22LR firearms are used many times to teach others to shoot. With a removable magazine, you know the gun is empty if the magazine is out and the bolt is locked back on an empty chamber. With tube mags, you can't see any ammo is left in the magazine....
Not to offend anyone with a tube - fed .22, but I agree with ^this^ statement. Buy one with a removable box magazine.

Good .22 bolt gun?

Marlin (own the 925, XT-22 has better trigger)
CZ
Savage

Can't go wrong.
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Old December 11, 2011, 09:33 AM   #20
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I have a 77/22 but it was $350 used great gun
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Old December 11, 2011, 09:59 AM   #21
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My CZ 452FS is a tack driver. I spent less than $20 for an aftermarket trigger kit and have a trigger that breaks like an icicle. A thin one. The wood on mine is pretty good; if you are lucky you can end up with some really nice walnut.

I added a ten round magazine but it looks a little funny with the longer magazine sticking out.

Every time I take it to the range it draws an admiring crowd.
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Old December 11, 2011, 11:13 AM   #22
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Where I live in GA, I hunt on public lands much of the time. We are required have an unloaded rifle within 50yds of a road open for travel.
Dr Strangelove, I live in Athens Ga as well and am confused by this statement. Can you direct me to the statute or law concerning this statement. I know it is illegal to discharge a firearm within 50 yds of a publicly maintained road but, I haven't heard anything about traveling with an loaded rifle. I do it all the time so would like to know if I am not within the law.

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Old December 11, 2011, 11:59 AM   #23
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probably should not stick my nose into this, near as I can tell it isn't, if it is loaded it must be in open view

http://www.lexisnexis.com/hottopics/gacode/Default.asp

ยง 16-11-126. Having or carrying handguns, long guns, or other weapons; license requirement; exceptions for homes, motor vehicles, and other locations and conditions; penalties for violations


(a) Any person who is not prohibited by law from possessing a handgun or long gun may have or carry on his or her person a weapon or long gun on his or her property or inside his or her home, motor vehicle, or place of business without a valid weapons carry license.

(b) Any person who is not prohibited by law from possessing a handgun or long gun may have or carry on his or her person a long gun without a valid weapons carry license, provided that if the long gun is loaded, it shall only be carried in an open and fully exposed manner.

(c) Any person who is not prohibited by law from possessing a handgun or long gun may have or carry any handgun provided that it is enclosed in a case and unloaded.

(d) Any person who is not prohibited by law from possessing a handgun or long gun who is eligible for a weapons carry license may transport a handgun or long gun in any private passenger motor vehicle; provided, however, that private property owners or persons in legal control of property through a lease, rental agreement, licensing agreement, contract, or any other agreement to control access to such property shall have the right to forbid possession of a weapon or long gun on their property, except as provided in Code Section 16-11-135.
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Old December 11, 2011, 12:21 PM   #24
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I love tube fed. 22's
I have a few. 22 rifles and the ones I shoot the most are the tube fed. Marlin 39A, Winchester 9422 and my old Winchester 72 which is a bolt action.
If I was in the market for another bolt action that Marlin XT-22TSR would be at the top of my list!
Marlins are hard to beat when accuracy and price are considered, in my experience they shoot right with the most expensive rifles, maybe better accuracy wise.
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Old December 11, 2011, 12:39 PM   #25
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Hounddawg, that is the way I read it as well. I hope that is correct, since I've been doing it for years.
Sorry to get off topic, I have no problem with tubular mags, some people believe that they are more prone to get dented or damaged, causing feeding problems than one with a drop box mag or internal box magazine. I do own one that has survived pretty well over 25 years of rough treatment but, it is a semi auto Winchestrer model 190, not a bolt gun (not that it matters for purposes of this discussion).
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