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Old December 5, 2011, 09:47 PM   #1
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Ruger Mini-30 or M1A Scout Squad

Let me know what you think, especially if you've owned one or both of these rifles.

Ruger Mini-30 or Springfield M1A Scout Squad

Caliber: M1A
Length: Mini
Weight: Mini
Cost: Mini
Range: M1A

Quality: ?
Finish: ? Mini (Stainless) M1A (Parkerized)
Flash hider/muzzle brake: ?


Just looking at these two (after looking at lots of others)

Want:
hunting caliber
no AK/AR
20 round+ mag fed, autoloader
very reliable

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Old December 5, 2011, 10:36 PM   #2
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I realize there are benefits to each. Hope you all can encourage me with your experience and push one over the finish line.
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Old December 6, 2011, 03:52 AM   #3
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M1A all the way if you can afford it don't hesitate you will be far happier.
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Old December 6, 2011, 06:27 AM   #4
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I have both.The Mini 30 is not even remotely in the same class as the Scout Squad.
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Old December 6, 2011, 06:30 AM   #5
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M1A.

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Old December 6, 2011, 07:39 AM   #6
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I have both!! M1A hands down!!! I'm not knocking the mini. It's a fine rifle but it can't hold a candle to the M1A Scout!! Just my .02!!!!
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Old December 6, 2011, 09:57 AM   #7
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Wow. No one for the mini!

I know if I get a mini-14. I will get a mini-30. If I get a mini-30 I will want another rifle still as 7.62 x 39 is a non-standard US cartridge (unlike 223 and 308).

If I get the M1A I dont feel like I will want or "need" a mini or maybe I can get a mini-14 and mini-30 years from now.

Am I right in wanting the Scout Squad over the SOCOM 16? I like how handy the SOCOM 16 is but with the scout squad I get 2 more inches of barrel and it is only slightly heavier and less handy. That fat front sight on the SOCOM I don't care for but I do like the larger rear sight. What kind of range should I expect out of a Scout Squad vs a SOCOM 16?
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Old December 6, 2011, 11:22 AM   #8
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Quote:
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...Am I right in wanting the Scout Squad over the SOCOM 16? ...
The 16 will do just fine out to 300-400 yards and be quite handi, a bit lighter but has a different type muzzle brake which is LOUD. The Scout of mine has peformed flawlessly and predictably out to 600 yards and has become one of my favorites. It also has a muzzle brake instead of the standard flash suppressor but can easily be swapped with USGI parts if you want as it is the standard castle nut config.

On my Scout, I also removed the barrel scope mount and went with an ARMS18 and QD rings. Lot of folks love the forward mount but it just didn't feel right for me. Depending on whats happening, I swap out my Mk4 scope with my EoTech 555 and rock on. All that flexibility and accuracy is what keeps the M1As and M14 clones on top.

Anyways, you will love the Scout. Lots of info on M14TFL.com too
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Old December 6, 2011, 08:19 PM   #9
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I'm a huge fan of mini's but I''d go for the Scout Squad.
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Old December 6, 2011, 09:56 PM   #10
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I've had quite a bit of time with Minis. And I own a M1a Scout. I like them both.

If you can swing the extra money, get the Springfield.
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Old December 7, 2011, 01:41 AM   #11
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Is you on drugs son ? Crack is whack how can u even mention those tactifools in ge same sphere as a m1 a ?!
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Old December 7, 2011, 06:42 AM   #12
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I own an M1a.

I owned a Mini-14.

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Old December 8, 2011, 02:07 AM   #13
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Boy do I love my mini's one of my favorite rifles both the mini-14 and mini-30, but are you serious? The M1a is in a whole other league. The day I decided to buy my M1a loaded was one of the happiest of my life. I love that rifle. If you can afford it go with the M1a, you wont be sorry. But either rifle is a good choice after all they are essentially the same, both based on the time tested garand style action, I am sure you will be happy either way.
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Old December 8, 2011, 03:33 AM   #14
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They are entirely different calibers at entirely different price points.

What is your main intent for the rifle?
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Old December 8, 2011, 04:26 PM   #15
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Main intent...to have one rifle. Major caliber. Semi-auto. Reasonable range (I know SOCOM gets limited). Capable of hunting and general purpose.
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Old December 8, 2011, 06:02 PM   #16
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They are not even in the same class.

If you can afford the m1a its better in every way.

get the 18" bbl.
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Old December 8, 2011, 06:08 PM   #17
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If you are going to use it for hunting, I'd get the M1a.
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Old December 8, 2011, 08:55 PM   #18
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I don't own either rifle, however I do own a Mini-14 and I love the rifle. I doubt you'll find even the most die hard Mini fan that would recommend the Mini-30 over the M1a. If you have the extra dough, go with the M1a and buy the Mini later.

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Old December 8, 2011, 09:15 PM   #19
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Quote:
Want:
hunting caliber
no AK/AR
20 round+ mag fed, autoloader
very reliable
You realize that the Mini shoots the same round as the AK?

If you just want a durable (non-AK) rifle to drag it around the woods and beat it up get the mini. Otherwise the M1A is superior in all regards.
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Old December 8, 2011, 09:59 PM   #20
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You realize that the Mini shoots the same round as the AK?
Yes.

I'm not crazy about the round, but acceptable for most hunting applications from what I've read (with proper bullet at reasonable distance). Really don't care for AK rifles at all, so the mini-30 was a consideration.

I'm pretty set on the .308 round, looked at an M1A (SOCOM 16) last night and a M1A (I think it was SOCOM) in a sweet Vltor stock tonight.
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Old December 8, 2011, 10:36 PM   #21
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The only reasons I can think of to go with the Mini would be if you have an aversion to the extra weight of the M1A or don't want the extra recoil of a .308.
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Old December 9, 2011, 12:23 AM   #22
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apples to oranges

Like comparing a Jeep Wrangler to a Hummer.

You'll own and operate the jeep and the mini-30 cheaper.

The HMV and the M1A will cost more and do more.

Your money.
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Old December 9, 2011, 12:37 AM   #23
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The M1A is the far superior rifle, I would not recommend the Mini-30 for anything but short range wet work. If cost is the consideration I would go with the SKS and do a US conversion on it. More accurate than the AK with good ammo and used by many for hunting.

Just my 2 cents.
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Old December 9, 2011, 10:58 AM   #24
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not the ruger...
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Old December 9, 2011, 11:02 AM   #25
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Get the 18.0" SCOUT or get the 16.25" SOCOM and add SEI SOCOM muzzle device kit.
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