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Old November 13, 2011, 01:26 PM   #1
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Help with a Beretta

It is time to upgrade I really like the Beretta line of shotguns. My preferences are solid wood, (no synthetics, no camo) in a semi auto. What model would you recommend and I would prefer to buy a used gun over a new, what's a fair price?
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Old November 13, 2011, 01:37 PM   #2
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What's your budget and intended use?
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Old November 13, 2011, 01:43 PM   #3
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I would go for the new...

made in USA 3901 American. Has the tried and true, and easy to take care of gas system. It comes in black walnut and sells for about $750 street price new. Stay away from the newer 391 gas series guns. The gas system is much more complicated and harder to dissemble and reassemble...
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Old November 13, 2011, 01:51 PM   #4
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check this out...

http://www.chuckhawks.com/beretta_A3901_shotguns.htm
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Old November 13, 2011, 10:43 PM   #5
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My opinion on the new A400 Xtreme I'm testing is quite positive, but the MSRP is close to $1800.

The 3901s I've run across have happy owners.

The 391s are good also, and may be bought used for a decent price.
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Old November 14, 2011, 06:00 PM   #6
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Ive got a 390 and a 391. I personally like the slimmer forend of the 391, but my old 390 has killed more stuff than cancer. The difference in the gas system is insignificant. I wanted to see how many rounds I could put through my 391 without a major cleaning. I ran 1500 reloads through it with out anything other a wipedown and barrel swabbing. Finally felt guilty and broke it down for a good cleaning.
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Old November 14, 2011, 06:21 PM   #7
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KJR,

the problem with your question - is there are too many guns to give you a good answer.... Beretta semi-autos in their "field guns" they have 14 models of the 391, 3901, A400 and prices range new from $ 645 - $ 2,075 and in their Competition line of guns - just in semi-autos again - they have 13 more models of the 391, 3901, A400 and UGB ...that range in price from $1,000 - $ 4,125.........

Which one is best....
What is a good price ...

Personally out of all of them I like the UGB Xcel Trap model with a 30" barrel - but with list price at $ 4,125 ...and average street price of around $ 3,750 ...is it a good gun for you ...I don't know ....

I also like the AL 391 Urika 2 Gold parallel and at a list price of $ 1,775 and street price of around $ 1,400 its a great gun for the money.../ but is it a good gun for you ...I don't know ....


http://www.berettausa.com/shop-by-de...emiautomatics/
You have to narrow this down / check out their website ...which models of their guns have you fired / have you taken any of them to a pattern board to see if they fit or not ....and on and on ..../ it isn't just about grabbing one off the shelf.......
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Old November 14, 2011, 07:49 PM   #8
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I just purchased an AL391 URIKA2 - I'll let you know what I think! Got it for $840 and I believe it retails in the $1200 range.
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Old November 14, 2011, 07:58 PM   #9
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guys .... the point is ....there is more than one model of the AL391 Urika 2...in the field guns there are 5 of them and prices vary from $ 1,125 - $ 1,500 and there are 5 more in the Competition guns and list prices are from
$ 1,450 - $ 1825....

There are a lot of models ...if you really want to help the OP - can we try and be more specific ...??

I just bought one ...doesn't even say what model year it was .../ just because its new in a box ...doesn't mean much ....if it was a 3 yr old model.

There is a member of this forum looking for a new Browning O/U - and everything he is finding is new in a box // ( but it was mfg'd in 2006 ) not 2011. The 2011 models are sold .../ talked to a guy recently that found a new Browning gold semi-auto 12ga ...and I don't know which model of the gold he found - but Browning has not made the Gold semi-auto in at least 3 yrs ...but there is still some inventory out there.../maybe its a great deal ...maybe not ...hard to know unless we're being specific .

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Old November 14, 2011, 08:07 PM   #10
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Old November 14, 2011, 08:24 PM   #11
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sorry mine's new, synthetic, field, not wood stock
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Old November 16, 2011, 02:36 PM   #12
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Beretta is like my cell phone. It works OK, but they never seem to get it just right and a newer improved model is always right around the corner. Why cant they just get it right and stick with it like BENELLI!!! there is no comparison.
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Old November 18, 2011, 01:48 PM   #13
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I own an original 391 Urika and an Xtrema2. Both guns are extremely reliable and I would buy another Beretta shotgun in a hot second.

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Why cant they just get it right and stick with it like BENELLI!!! there is no comparison.
Huh? Just spouting off or do you honestly believe that crap? It may interest you to know that Beretta and Benelli are the same company. Go figure huh?
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Old November 18, 2011, 02:05 PM   #14
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If you are looking used, newer isn't always better. I have a AL-1, 303s, 390s, and a 391. Depending on what you will be using it for, the 303 with a mobil choke barrel is a great gun, but 2 3/4" only. If yoy want to shoot 3" too, look for a 390. The newer guns just get more complicated. Mark
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Old November 18, 2011, 04:35 PM   #15
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391 is easier than the 390 as far as cleaning, and the A400 easier still.......

Still, the 303 is considered one of the best gas gun around
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Old November 18, 2011, 05:05 PM   #16
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The pressure relief spring for the gas piston on the 391 is much more of a pain to clean than the 390. I don't see where you think it's easier. Mark
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Old November 18, 2011, 05:08 PM   #17
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Great replies...I'm looking to spend between 8 & 1100 dollars for probably a used gun.

Big Jim, It is hard to qualify one model over another as I do not have them to look at and online research is all but worthless, that's why I come here for advise. Real advise from real gun owners & shooters...like myself.

I intend to shoot birds, real & clay, and small game but mostly targets on a range.

Thanks to all...your input is valuable
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Old November 18, 2011, 07:28 PM   #18
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I've cleaned a 390 and 391 and find the 391 to be somewhat easier. However, both pale in comparison to cleaning the Xtrema2. Talk about easy to clean!

Edited to add: OP, you'd be hard pressed to find a better gun than the Urika / Urika 2 and it should fit into your price range quite nicely. Based on your follow-up it doesn't sound like you need any more than a 3" chamber.

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Old November 18, 2011, 08:05 PM   #19
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"Huh? Just spouting off or do you honestly believe that crap? It may interest you to know that Beretta and Benelli are the same company. Go figure huh? "

I've owned three 391s. Had problems with them ALL. One of them the Beretta cutstomer rep. asked me if I had a Dremel tool. He wanted me to started grinding on the barrel of a 3 month old Teknys Gold.



I bought a Benelli on a whim. I have not had any problems since. The Benelli is cleaner, and a much simpler machine. They are FAR easier to keep running. The Benelli is a far superior gun for reliability. I know many very experienced shooters who are selling Berettas for Benellis. I am talking about guys who shoot several targets a week. You can only kill targets if the gun goes Bang.
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Old November 19, 2011, 12:24 AM   #20
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Your experience is not typical and it doesn't change the fact that they're the same company and my experience is exactly the opposite of yours.

Funny, I don't see many guys at my club or buddies in the field trading their Beretta's for Benelli's.

There isn't a lot of difference between the intertia operated Benelli's and the gas operated Beretta's. In fact, Beretta has done a lot of technology changes in each of their lines, borrowing from Beretta, Benelli and Franchi to improve every line.

Edit: Oh and the OP asked for help with Beretta, not Benelli, so your comments are not only incorrect, they're off topic.

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Old November 19, 2011, 12:41 PM   #21
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I wouldn't go the beretta route either. The CS sucks, there are way to many parts and worse yet breakages, and the fake wood looks like crap. A buddy on my shooting team (most of them use 391 Golds) had his receiver crack after only 10K rounds (the max load he put through were AA SS). Beretta told him that the 391 Recievers are no longer being produced and he should part out his gun. Another TWO people on my shooting team broke connecting rods, which they were both told to repair on thier dollar. Definitly go with benelli, I personally have had very very good experiance with their CS on a bolt with machine marks that were a little too deep. Benellis have more robust parts that are fewer in number. Definitly keep an eye out for a Cordoba or Sport II.
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Old November 19, 2011, 12:44 PM   #22
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"There isn't a lot of difference between the intertia operated Benelli's and the gas operated Beretta's. In fact, Beretta has done a lot of technology changes in each of their lines, borrowing from Beretta, Benelli and Franchi to improve every line."

Really? There's too much difference between them. Beretta borrows from Beretta? Thats novel. Honestly, the only spittin image the came out of Beretta from Benelli is the Pintail, which was a failure in some peoples eyes due to Spanish QC.
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Old November 19, 2011, 01:54 PM   #23
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"Your experience is not typical and it doesn't change the fact that they're the same company and my experience is exactly the opposite of yours."

My experience is just that, MY experience. I was not trying to help you. I was just trying to help the op. If you disagree, that's o.k., but don't take it personally. By the way, how do you know what is typical at the clubs I frequent?

"Funny, I don't see many guys at my club or buddies in the field trading their Beretta's for Benelli's."

"There isn't a lot of difference between the intertia operated Benelli's and the gas operated Beretta's"

You are dead wrong about the operating systems not being different. They are extremely different. The Benelli runs far cleaner, which makes it more reliable. Again, nothing personal. If you love the Beretta, GREAT! I'm just trying to help the op.
The fact that I'm not the only response steering this way kind of backs up my response.
"Edit: Oh and the OP asked for help with Beretta, not Benelli, so your comments are not only incorrect, they're off topic."
If I can make a helpful suggestion, I'm gonna. The op didn't seem to mind.
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Old November 19, 2011, 02:33 PM   #24
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If you like Beretta & price is a factor, you might consider Stoeger. They're owned by Beretta, have the same barrels as Berettas (made in the same factory), & they have the Inertia Driven system. They are also under $500 for the wood models.
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Old November 20, 2011, 09:01 AM   #25
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Guy's Benelli's are excellent shotguns, I'm not going to argue that point. The OP asked about Beretta and his intended use makes Beretta the better choice as he's apparently already decided.

The large chambered Benelli's (SBE2 to be specific) are known to not reliably cycle light target loads, which is one of his intended uses.
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