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Old November 2, 2011, 06:26 PM   #1
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Kid's Ruger 10/22 Needs to become an older kids rifle

I have a Ruger 10/22 which needs to go from a kid's plinker to a more mature target rifle.

Basically, I'm thinking:
- Upgrade barrel
- Upgrade stock
- Improve trigger pull
- 10x - 15x scope for 0 - 100 yd target shooting

Any reccomendations? I'm hoping to do this on the cheap and get this done for under $300 - $400.

I have seen a .920 barrel for $99, a decent stock for $65, but I'm confused about trigger parts needed and cheap, but pretty good scope/mount options.
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Old November 2, 2011, 06:35 PM   #2
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simply adding a volquartsen target hammer with half the factory trigger pull
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Old November 2, 2011, 06:43 PM   #3
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Butler Creek barrel/stock kits run about $160.
Clark Custom trigger kits cost about $50.
Weaver base and rings will run about $50.
A decent scope for a 22 can be had for $100-$125.
That's $385 or so, plus tax, so there ya go, $400 for a new rifle.
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Old November 2, 2011, 06:46 PM   #4
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Options proportional to $$$$$$

I'm currently in the process of up-grading one for a friend. Basically have done some of what you listed. .....
1. New Boyt thumbhole laminated stock.
3. Target Hammer @ $30.00
4. .920 butler creek barrel.
5. Auto bolt release. (Reworked OEM)
6. Poly recoil buffer; replaces the OEM bolt stop.
7. Center Point 4-16 scope.

Now, there are many price options to the above and have converted more expensive ones but this is basically the route he chose. Right now just doing some fine tuning/honing on the trigger. ...


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Old November 2, 2011, 06:58 PM   #5
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sorry guy but here's how it breaks down

Basically, I'm thinking
- Upgrade barrelwill cost as much as a new 10/22
- Upgrade stockwill cost about 3/4 of a new 10/22
- Improve trigger pullwill cost as much as a used 10/22
- 10x - 15x scope for 0 - 100 yd target shootingwill cost up to 5 times as much as a new 10/22 and will be way too fuzzy at 100 yards.
granted all of these prices are for high end products and you'll probably find cheaper but if you really want "match grade" rifle then upgrading with cheap parts is counter productive.

back before I stopped believing in my own abilities with a rifle a buddy of mine used to shoot at empty 22 casings at 50-60 yards with a cheap barska 4x that I grabbed at wally world for $20 on a marlin 60. my buddy was usually able to hit 5 out of 10 shots, my best was 8 hits to 10 shots. my entire setup was worth less than $180, the prices you are looking at getting into are into the $600-1000 range and are just not worth it. put a decent 3-9 scope and a trigger in it and forget the bull barrel and free float stock and you'll have a gun that will hit a 1" bullseye at 100 yards every time if you do your part. the only reason for needing anything above 9 is if you are going past 200 yards.
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Old November 2, 2011, 07:43 PM   #6
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but I'm confused about trigger parts needed and cheap, but pretty good scope/mount options
It kind of goes like this in order of making trigger improvements:
Target Hammer (Volquartsen or Power Customs): $35 "Better"
Add Target Sear: $36 "More Better"
Or add Adjustable Target Sear (Rimfire Technologies): $40 "Even more Better"
Add Full width Trigger with Overtravel adj: $23 "Now you're getting somewhere"

So you can go from $35 to $100+ You will feel the difference as you add each component. You can also build up your trigger group in stages.

Scopes and mounts already fill pages of posts...

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Old November 2, 2011, 07:57 PM   #7
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sorry guy but here's how it breaks down

Basically, I'm thinking
- Upgrade barrelwill cost as much as a new 10/22
- Upgrade stockwill cost about 3/4 of a new 10/22
- Improve trigger pullwill cost as much as a used 10/22
- 10x - 15x scope for 0 - 100 yd target shootingwill cost up to 5 times as much as a new 10/22 and will be way too fuzzy at 100 yards.
granted all of these prices are for high end products and you'll probably find cheaper but if you really want "match grade" rifle then upgrading with cheap parts is counter productive.

back before I stopped believing in my own abilities with a rifle a buddy of mine used to shoot at empty 22 casings at 50-60 yards with a cheap barska 4x that I grabbed at wally world for $20 on a marlin 60. my buddy was usually able to hit 5 out of 10 shots, my best was 8 hits to 10 shots. my entire setup was worth less than $180, the prices you are looking at getting into are into the $600-1000 range and are just not worth it. put a decent 3-9 scope and a trigger in it and forget the bull barrel and free float stock and you'll have a gun that will hit a 1" bullseye at 100 yards every time if you do your part. the only reason for needing anything above 9 is if you are going past 200 yards.
Thanks for the story. Sounds like you got a much better 10/22. Mine shoots about 1" @25 yard groups. That is with a cheap 3-9 scope. I am actually a proven betteer shot than this with other rifles, so I don't think it is me.

So here is what I know. . .1 MOA or better is not super 100 yd accuracy. . .

So I think the $99 barrel will deliver.
Any adult/large kid fitting stock should work well enough, after I bed it and make sure the barrel is clear.
I'm not sure the best bang for my buck on trigger group stuff, so what is the best $50 way to improve trigger pull?
I was looking at scopes tonight and am more confused than ever, but I do know that a fixed 10 - 20x AO scope is a simple enough device that surely one is crafted to make a good mid-day target scope with decent turrets for under $150. Any recomendations?
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Old November 2, 2011, 08:37 PM   #8
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I had to have the best 10/22 on the block...to me, it was $1400+ well spent!


If I was going to go a cheaper route though, I wouldn't go any cheaper that this-

barrel-Green Mountain or ER Shaw bull barrel. Both can be found for around $100-125
http://gunkings.com/index.php?main_p...x&cPath=29_128
http://gunkings.com/index.php?main_p...x&cPath=29_129

stock Boyds gunstocks. Depends on what style you like but the Blaster, Evo or Tacticool are all great choices. All 3 under $100!
http://www.boydsgunstocks.com/Replac...7-MKII-s/6.htm

trigger An easy, pretty good option is the Power Customs hammer and
adjustable sear kit. I have it on my non KIDD 10/22. Fairly light pull, very little pretravel or creep...not the best but better than most. $60
http://gunkings.com/index.php?main_p...roducts_id=481

scope It may be a bit more that you want to spend but well worth it. Best value out there for a Rimfire scope. The Mueller APV. 4.5-14 X40. Comes in black or silver. $130
http://www.JoeBobOutfitters.com/Mueller_Scopes_s/4.htm

If you go with these choices you WILL have a tack driving, good looking 10/22 that's better than most for just over $400!!
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Old November 2, 2011, 09:08 PM   #9
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Must be nice being born into a rich family.

All cheapo parts, double muzzle break, ATI stock, $60.00 scope.

Shoots 1 MOA at 100 yards all day long.

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Old November 2, 2011, 09:46 PM   #10
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Must be nice being born into a rich family

I imagine it would be. I wouldnt know.
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Old November 2, 2011, 10:59 PM   #11
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Since when did $1400 equate to affluence?
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Old November 3, 2011, 08:13 AM   #12
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I modified my wife's 10-22 carbine with a Butler Creek Combo barrel and stock and worked the trigger.
With a 5 cent washer on the bolt that holds the barrel and the stock, the barrel is free floating and it shoots better.
I put a Mueller scope on it.
She shoots it under 0.5 inches at 50 yards with Wolf Target ammo.



The Combo barrel/stock isn't the best or most expensive stock barrel combination but it does work pretty well.

If you can afford another $150 I would go with a match barrel and a Hogue stock.
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Old November 3, 2011, 11:09 AM   #13
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I'm not sure the best bang for my buck on trigger group stuff, so what is the best $50 way to improve trigger pull?
Best bang for your buck: just put a Volquartsen hammer in. That will give the most improvement for the $.

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... a fixed 10 - 20x AO scope...
A fixed AO scope will be hard to find. For the build you are doing, this is a good match:
http://www.opticsplanet.net/bush-rs-bnr-714124.html

If you really want more magnification, this is also a god bang for the buck scope. The 50mm objective will require high rings:
http://www.opticsplanet.net/bush-rs-bnr-716185.html
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Old November 3, 2011, 03:45 PM   #14
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Best bang for your buck: just put a Volquartsen hammer in. That will give the most improvement for the $.
I have prettty much settled on the Volquartsen Especially after having to send two Power Customs back to Midway that just plain did not take. ...
The last ones that I bought actually cost $30.00 each.
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It kind of goes like this in order of making trigger improvements:
Target Hammer (Volquartsen or Power Customs): $35 "Better"
Add Target Sear: $36 "More Better"
Or add Adjustable Target Sear (Rimfire Technologies): $40 "Even more Better"
Add Full width Trigger with Overtravel adj: $23 "Now you're getting somewhere"
Very nice explaination on progression of trigger work, athough listed pricing is a little high. ....

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Old November 3, 2011, 06:12 PM   #15
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Thanks for the help so far. I would spend $1400, but that is outside the budget for this gun.

The scope is my sticking point. . .I found this:

BSA 36x!!!

I think that will be OK, but a little high power below 100 yards, so I might go with:

BSA 8-32x44AO
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Old November 3, 2011, 06:45 PM   #16
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so I might go with:

Still a little over power, may I suggest a 4-16 or a 6-24. More than enough scope for the 10/22. Unless you are shooting the wings off of flies. (LOL)

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Old November 3, 2011, 06:45 PM   #17
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The variable may be more versatile. Even at 100 yards the 36x might give you a problem with mirage on a hot day. And, at 36x I'd never be steady enough to be able to shoot offhand
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Old November 3, 2011, 07:55 PM   #18
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hogue stock, find them on sale at midway, as low as $79

skip the drop in trigger parts. they can be more trouble than they're worth. unless you don't mind a safty that doesn't work. for 65 buck a good gunsmith can do a trigger job that has a better feel than the drop in ones. (there is more to a good trigger than being light)

bull barrel. its your call. look hard and you will ofter find a steel one for $89

scopes. I shoot bench rest with a 10x fixed power scope. find a good 3-9x with good glass and a fine reticle. the thickness of the reticle and the quality of the glass has more effect on shooting than the magnification at shorter ranges. in my opinion, a fixed scope is better than a variable. eye relief shrinks with magnification on low dollar variables. a good 6x fixed would be my choice
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