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Old October 7, 2014, 07:53 PM   #1
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.243 Load

Hi, I am looking for a handload recipe for .243 to load for my young son. I want to load something that reduces the recoil from factory loads. I know .243's are light recoil guns but this is for a 5 year old so I want to tame it as much as I can but not make it so tame that it isnt effective on whitetail deer. I have Hornady 95 grain sst's and speer boattail softpoint 100grain bullets. The powders I have readily available are IMR 3031, 4350, 4064, 4831, and 7828. The gun is an older savage 110, 22 inch bbl, 1:9.25 twist. Anyone with some tried and true recipes using one of those powders? Preferably a load made up for a woman or child, I would really appreciate some ideas!
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Old October 7, 2014, 08:12 PM   #2
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Nosler does make an 85gr Partition

That's probably too much rifle for a five year old, no way will he be able to shoulder and fire a rifle with this much length of pull. A .243 Winchester in a break over configuration with a short barrel would be a better choice for one that young. A better choice for a bullet would be a 85 gr Partition using 4350 with a starting load, I think lighter and shorter would be a a better for him to handle.. Actually IMR4064 would be a better powder choice for the shorter barrel and lighter bullet now that I've given it more thought.. William

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Old October 7, 2014, 08:29 PM   #3
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I just did a load work up on a Savage youth 243 last year for a co workers son.

38.gn 4064
85 gn Serria BTHP
CCI-BR2 primers
Shot sub MOA at 100 yards. His son dropped his first deer ever on the first shot.
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Old October 8, 2014, 10:03 PM   #4
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Right now I am trying to get the load worked out for him. He is not shooting tje gun yet, he is a rather little fella but I want to get the leg work done when it is time. As far as the rifle goes, it has a modified stock so the length of pull is shorter than standard. Right now I just want to find a bullet and powder combo that will work good enough and lower recoil a bit.
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Old October 9, 2014, 05:43 AM   #5
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Start him out with a Trail Boss load. Reduced recoil and accurate.
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Old October 9, 2014, 06:09 AM   #6
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I suggest keeping reduced load cases separate from those used for maximum loads. Such fired cases often have their shoulders set back too far. If full length sizing them doesn't move their shoulder forward to at least minimum specs, head separation issues can start.

Neck only resizing of such cases is not recommended.
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Old October 9, 2014, 09:10 PM   #7
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If a person is not strong enough to shoot the 243 then they are too weak for big game hunting.

Keep him at the club for .22 shooting and on small game.
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Old October 10, 2014, 11:55 AM   #8
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I asked for some ideas on load recipes, not your opinion on whether or not my son should be hunting deer or shooting a .243.
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Old October 10, 2014, 12:13 PM   #9
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+1 for using Trailboss to get him used to "guns-don't-have-to-hurt"
http://www.hodgdon.com/PDF/Trail%20B...oads%20R&P.pdf

As to being physically "too-large" a rifle, that may be the case.
(But that will iron itself in time as long as he's doesn't start out
being beat to bejezes on opening night)


NOTE: If you can't get Trailboss, I'd stick with a fast powder like 3031 for reduced loads.
(I'll have to get back from the Office to look up QuickLoad data for reducing that powder.)
See also http://www.thehighroad.org/attachmen...6&d=1312332798

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Old October 10, 2014, 01:30 PM   #10
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H4895

I use one of these in a 7mm-08.

http://www.hodgdonreloading.com/relo...w-recoil-loads
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Old October 10, 2014, 02:36 PM   #11
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Use Trail Boss with lighter bullets (70-85 gr suitable for the intended application) or IMR 4064 with the 95 gr SSTs.

TB instructions were provided by mehavey. (It really is that simple - get at least 75% fill, but don't compress it.) Heavier bullets won't stabilize at the velocities TB will give you. So, you'll have to try something lighter, to see if it will be stable at all.

With the 95 gr SSTs, I wouldn't bother with a reduced load. In any 7+ lb rifle, there's hardly any recoil to speak of, anyway. If he can't handle 'standard' loads, he just isn't ready for the rifle.

95 gr SST
Win or R-P brass
IMR4064 33.0-36.1 gr
2.630" COAL (seated to the cannelure)
Standard (non-magnum) primer of choice
~2,750 to 2,980 fps
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Old October 10, 2014, 04:27 PM   #12
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Reduced loads

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I would test Alliant 2400 with a 70 gr bullet starting at 15.0gr. http://www.chuckhawks.com/low_power_loads_243_308.htm I have used 2400 in 30-06 with 110 gr for the kids, but older than 5.
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Old October 10, 2014, 05:17 PM   #13
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GIVEN:
- 100gr bullets (that the OP has)
- IMR3031 powder (that the OP has)
- 22" Barrel with ~1:9 twist (that the OP has)

Quickload tells me I get:
- 36,000psi (my min goal)
- 70% case fill (another approximate goal)
~ 2,500 fps producing>1,380ft lbs Energy

JBM tells me:
- Miller Stability ~1.8 (which "should" be stable)

I'll get some 100-grainers tomorrow and try it out.
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Old October 10, 2014, 07:38 PM   #14
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I can definitely get some lighter bullets than the 100 grainers, that's just what I currently have on hand. If the lighter ones would work better with obtaining the goal, its not a problem. I was just hoping to find something that worked well with the powders I have already. Thanks for all the input.......
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Old October 11, 2014, 05:03 PM   #15
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I'd get lighter bullets regardless, but I will tell you that the 100 grainers over
29.5gr/3031 are exceptionally pleasant to shoot, are consistent in velocity/burn,
will stay in minute-of-whitetail-heart at 100...

...but are just a bit unstable in my 11½ twist barrel at those slow speeds.




Miller Stability for the above was 1.023 (predictably minute-of-heart)
Miller Stability for 9½ twist would be 1.5 and in the green.

Try it.....
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Old October 11, 2014, 05:37 PM   #16
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Use a flat base bullet. The shorter length of the bullet, the better.
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Old October 11, 2014, 05:40 PM   #17
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No question...
But I believe the OP's faster twist will stabilize it OK at that load/velocity,

(Heck, I could run that same bullet over a full-up load of N560/3,050fps even with my slow
twist and Miller would stabilize it at a strong 1.6. But as usual, there ain't no free lunch )

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