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Old October 17, 2011, 12:57 PM   #1
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Thinking of a .38/.357 rifle

For plinking and maybe brush hunting pigs. What would you get and why?
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Old October 17, 2011, 01:23 PM   #2
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The only one I have, or have any experience with is the Marlin 94Cowboy. It's a heck of a lot of fun, accurate and cheap to shoot ( I cast my bullets).

There may be others just as good, but I really like the Marlin.
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Old October 17, 2011, 01:40 PM   #3
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Short answer: Rossi

I don't know about Marlins or others, but if you go Winchester (or, I guess, clone), the '94 action is longer and not as smooth as the '92 for pistol cartridges.
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Old October 17, 2011, 01:40 PM   #4
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.357 rifle

I have an Uberti 1873 delux Sporting Carbine. I love it. I saw a new Ruger a few days ago. .357 bolt rifle. Neat little gun. It was synthetic and stainless. If it came in blue and walnut I would give it serious consideration for myself.

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Old October 17, 2011, 01:43 PM   #5
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On the cheap, the H&R is worth a look. I absolutely love my .45-70.
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Old October 17, 2011, 02:00 PM   #6
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H&R Handi-Rifle,,,

I love mine,,,

With a decent scope,,,
It's minute-of-armidillo at 100 yards.

Seriously,,,
It's a fine single-shot.

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Old October 17, 2011, 02:43 PM   #7
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the marlin 1894C would be a good choice for piglets
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Old October 17, 2011, 02:54 PM   #8
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I have a pre cross bolt safety M1894c, that's my recommendation.
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Old October 17, 2011, 08:38 PM   #9
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357 lever actions are great. My marlin (22inch barrel) is my primary deer gun. They are fairly cheep to shoot and they are very fun guns. I went on a hog hunt in Oregon and I brought both my 45/70 (18 inch barrel) and my shorter 357 magnum (18 inch barrel). The guide said that the 45/70 was too much gun and recommended the 357 magnum. It worked great!

I think it would work well on hogs unless you have really big ones.
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Old October 17, 2011, 09:04 PM   #10
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I shoot Cowboy Action. I shoot and see a lot of lever action rifles. The Marlin Cowboy is a good solid dependable gun. The Uberti '73 is faster, easier to work on and very good looking.
You'll likely do well with either but the Marlin should be easier on your budget, if that matters.
Check with any SASS Clubs in your area, Shooters are constantly turning guns. You can find a good used gun with a slick action, with a little luck.
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Old October 17, 2011, 09:26 PM   #11
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I don't know about Marlins or others, but if you go Winchester (or, I guess, clone), the '94 action is longer and not as smooth as the '92 for pistol cartridges.
1894 Marlins are not the same as 1894 Win rifles.

1894 Marlins are pistol calibers
1892 Win (and clones) are pistol calibers
1894 win is a different gun inteded to be used with rifle calibers.
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Old October 17, 2011, 09:48 PM   #12
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You are correct in that the Winchester Model 94 was ...

designed for true centerfire bottleneck rifle cartridges like the .30-30 and Winchester .32 Special but in the last 25 years Winchester has chambered the Model 94 in .44 Magnum, .357 Magnum, and .45 Colt.

I can't see it but nonetheless they wanted a Winchester in the hands of the modern cowboy action shooters and this is what they offered.

For example:

http://www.gunblast.com/Winchester-Ranger357.htm

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Old October 17, 2011, 09:56 PM   #13
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Now, as to the original post. This is the bomb:

Marlin 1894C in .357 Magnum (purchased new in 1980) with Lyman receiver sight


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Old October 18, 2011, 06:29 AM   #14
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A lot of good information here for me to think about.
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Old October 18, 2011, 07:00 AM   #15
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One rifle not yet mentioned is the Rossi (Puma). A popular version of the original Winchester model 92, this lever is available in .357/.38 as well as in other handgun calibers. New M92's run around $400-$450 and are well-built, attractive, accurate with many options available. Used levers of any make are difficult to find as most are kept by their owners.

Over the years I have owned levers by Winchester, Marlin and Henry and recently bought my first Rossi M92. Have only shot paper so far but will try on deer next month.

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Old October 18, 2011, 01:54 PM   #16
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I've gone through about a half dozen different .357 carbines, I guess it's been my 'thing'. Sold them all except my Handi rifle.

My Handi is about 15 years old and it's a real shooter. It's the old style with a 22" tapered barrel, open click adjustable sights and ejector (not the modern extractor). I mounted a Trijicon Reflex sight (battery free) on it to help out my old eyes.

With several loads it will shoot under 3" at 100 yards, and one or two will do under 2". It loves my 148 grain plated DEWC load, very quiet, very accurate.

The lever guns I've owned have been good, A Rossi Puma was a fine shooter, but didn't like .38's. Marlins have been good too, had an 1894 CP, a 16" ported barrel, no longer made that was very good as well.

.357 is an excellent carbine caliber. Some loads in a carbine are close to 30-30 ballistics. You can shoot .357's in a carbine all day long without a sore shoulder or ringing ears.
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Old October 18, 2011, 03:09 PM   #17
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Marlin switched from MicroGroove to Ballard rifling at the request of CAS shooters who found that better for their needs, not sure when the transition was made, if that's any consideration.
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Old October 18, 2011, 03:24 PM   #18
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historically, from what I have read, the .45 colt was not a lever rifle cartridge because of weak case heads. At some point that changed, and the case head is now just like any other modern cartridge
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Old October 18, 2011, 07:12 PM   #19
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did you need to drill or have a gunsmith work on your rifle to add that Lyman, Sheffield?
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Old October 18, 2011, 08:03 PM   #20
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Trapper Carbine from Winchester

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Old October 18, 2011, 08:20 PM   #21
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I just bought a Rossi stainless .357/.38 with 20" barrel. It is very accurate and shoots everything, i.e., full-house magnums, and cheap 38 Specials, very well. Wanted a Marlin a while back, but with their QC issues, and no used ones to be had, because as one poster said, those who have them keep them, I went with the Rossi. Have one in 45 Colt and 44 Mag as well. All great shooters. Not as well finished as the Marlins, but good none-the-less.
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Old October 18, 2011, 08:38 PM   #22
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shrewd asked:

did you need to drill or have a gunsmith work on your rifle to add that Lyman, Sheffield?

No, the Marlin and Winchester lever guns came drilled and tapped for receiver sights with filler screws in the holes. Not sure if they still do.

I have a Williams 5D on my Winchester 1894 .30-30 and a Williams Fool Proof on my Marlin 39A.
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Old October 18, 2011, 08:57 PM   #23
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Based on 14 years of CAS I can tell you that the Puma/Rossi is ok but just doesn't stand up to extended use like a Marlin or Uberti. A Cowboy Shooter might well shoot 1000 rounds through a rifle in a year. We are not easy on our guns. We buy what shoots best and lasts.
The fastest sight on a lever action, based on my experience, is the Full Buck Horn, it's like a big peep sight and very easy to pickup. You can use the 'V' at the bottom of the Buck Horn for holding tighter on a shot.

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the .45 colt was not a lever rifle cartridge because of weak case heads
The .45 Colt case used in the old West just had a small rim on it. It would not extract from a rifle chamber after being fired. New .45 Colt cases have a nice rim that works fine.
If you go to a Cowboy Action Shoot someone(s) will let you try their rifle(s).
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Old October 18, 2011, 10:30 PM   #24
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Marlin put out a limited edition series including 357 a couple of years back. Great little guns if you can find one for a resonable cost. Browning B92s were available for some time and are probably one of the best 357s. The 92 action is very strong.
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Old October 19, 2011, 06:21 AM   #25
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How 'bout a bolt action .357mag?

http://www.ruger.com/products/rotary...57/models.html
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