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Old October 7, 2011, 04:15 PM   #1
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safety deposit box and firearms.

im wondering. i never had a safety deposit box at a bank. no idea whats involved but i hear its for valuables. whats more valuable than a good handgun?

does the law allow this? do banks allow this? are the safety deposit boxes checked? are there cameras in there? i don't even know how big they are and if a glock 19 would even fit.

this would be for a spare handgun of course.
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Old October 7, 2011, 04:19 PM   #2
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Most banks don't allow firearms in the safe-deposit boxes.

It's pretty easy to get one in there... but you probably don't want to be the "guy with a gun", in a bank (whether you're "depositing" or "withdrawing").
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Old October 7, 2011, 04:31 PM   #3
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There are bank safety deposit boxes large enough to hold 15 or 20 Glock 19’s. So no problem there. But I’m not sure a bank would allow it. Maybe a valuable antique pistol, maybe. By the time you pay the yearly fees for a large safety deposit box long enough, you could probably buy a safe for your home.
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Old October 7, 2011, 04:36 PM   #4
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Not exactly convenient every time you want go to the range. Especially weekend and holidays.
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Old October 7, 2011, 04:43 PM   #5
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this would be for a spare handgun of course.

this would be for a spare handgun of course.

this would be for a spare handgun of course.
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Old October 7, 2011, 04:52 PM   #6
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I have thought about the safe deposit box before. For the cost, hassle, possibility of it being open by the police (rare, but happens) I would rather make a agreement with a good friend or family member to keep a safe at their place (and they one at mine) that only I had the combo to. Serves the same purpose and only cost 1 time, not monthly.
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Old October 7, 2011, 05:22 PM   #7
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Glock in a safe deposit box?

Good pistols for sure (if ugly) but not exactly safe deposit material...
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Old October 7, 2011, 05:30 PM   #8
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Might be easier to get a small (gun) safe then put it in the best hiding place you have. I do know of guns kept in safe deposit boxes but I don't do it.
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Old October 7, 2011, 05:45 PM   #9
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Glock in a safe deposit box?


OK some one had to say it.


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Old October 7, 2011, 06:53 PM   #10
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I've thought about this after hearing about the home invasion murders in Chesire, CT. In that case the wife was driven to the bank to withdraw money by one of the bad guys. Having a handgun waiting at the bank could have made a difference.

As for keeping one there, it's my understanding that most banks prohibit anybody but the box renter from being present in the room when the safety deposit box is opened. Short of exceptional circumstances, the bank will never even know what's in your box.
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Old October 7, 2011, 06:54 PM   #11
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I believe there is a federal criminal law regarding possession of firearms on bank property. Maybe want to look into that.
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Old October 7, 2011, 07:11 PM   #12
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I believe there is a federal criminal law regarding possession of firearms on bank property. Maybe want to look into that.
No such law exists to the best of my knowledge.
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Old October 7, 2011, 07:31 PM   #13
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I believe there is a federal criminal law regarding possession of firearms on bank property. Maybe want to look into that.
Not only is there not such a law but BATF recommends storing NFA firearms in safety deposit boxes if necessary:
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Q: If an individual is changing his or her State of residence and the individual’s application to transport the NFA firearm cannot be approved because of a prohibition in the new State, what options does a lawful possessor have?

NFA firearms may be left in a safe deposit box in his or her former State of residence.
http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/nati...ernate-storage
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Old October 7, 2011, 07:56 PM   #14
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I have to question the need to store a Glock or any other modern pistol of modest value in a SDB. It's certainly not valuable enough to warrant such an out of the way, useless storage location. Something of historic and/or significant value I could understand.
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Old October 7, 2011, 08:15 PM   #15
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are there cameras in there?
Wrap it in something so it can't be identified by a camera.
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Old October 7, 2011, 08:47 PM   #16
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but you probably don't want to be the "guy with a gun", in a bank (whether you're "depositing" or "withdrawing").
Why not?

I carry in my bank all the time, both when depositing and when withdrawing. AFAIK it's not against any law, and the banks have no signs saying "No Weapons."
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Old October 7, 2011, 08:48 PM   #17
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I'm not sure what the banks do where most of you guys live, but around here (at least at the bank where I worked for 4 1/2 years), SD boxes are opened by customers in private, unmonitored rooms. The customer is taken into the vault, the box is removed and they are escorted to a closed, private room with no cameras or windows where they are visible. When they're done, they come out, they're taken back in the vault with their box and they lock it back up.

You could put dead rats in there and no one would know until it stunk the place up.

I have to agree that it would be silly for a Glock but you could certainly do it without anyone at the bank being aware/scared.
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Some places like Commiefornia allows the state to enter the box and remove its contents. So, if you do, go at least once a year to keep the box "active" on the bank's books. Even if you pay for it, if the box isn't visited, the bank may close it. I know Chase will but luckily I got there before hand.
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Old October 7, 2011, 09:46 PM   #20
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Even if you pay for it, if the box isn't visited, the bank may close it. I know Chase will but luckily I got there before hand.
Now THAT's news to me. I've never heard of such a thing. I'm not in CA and I don't bank with Chase, but I've gone years between visits to my safety deposit box and the bank didn't close it or snoop into it. As long as I pay the rent, it's MY box.
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Old October 7, 2011, 10:13 PM   #21
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im wondering. i never had a safety deposit box at a bank. no idea whats involved but i hear its for valuables. whats more valuable than a good handgun?

does the law allow this? do banks allow this? are the safety deposit boxes checked? are there cameras in there? i don't even know how big they are and if a glock 19 would even fit.

this would be for a spare handgun of course.
The boxes come in all different sizes. I think a full-size pistol would fit in the smallest box just fine. If not, rent one size larger.

The bank doesn't even want to know what's in your box. Just bring it in in a money pouch or a briefcase. Perfectly legal -- in most states anyway.

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Some places like Commiefornia allows the state to enter the box and remove its contents. So, if you do, go at least once a year to keep the box "active" on the bank's books. Even if you pay for it, if the box isn't visited, the bank may close it. I know Chase will but luckily I got there before hand.
Are you sure about that? You might be right, I guess, but that sounds more like a dormant savings or checking account.
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Old October 7, 2011, 10:22 PM   #22
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Are you sure about that? You might be right, I guess, but that sounds more like a dormant savings or checking account.
I think the boxes do go "dormant" or something similar after awhile. I never dealt with that side so I don't know the time frame or rules when it happens or how often you have to visit to keep it from happening... and it may vary by state.
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Old October 7, 2011, 10:27 PM   #23
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Settle down, and review TFL rule number 3, please.

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Old October 7, 2011, 11:00 PM   #24
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I was thinking of the FDIC law, but I see now it takes more than just being insured for that to apply. That's probably why I said "I believe" and "look into that".
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Are you sure about that? You might be right, I guess, but that sounds more like a dormant savings or checking account.
Every state I know of has laws to allow the liquidation of safe-deposit box contents.

When that happens, depends on two things:
1. State law.
2. Company policy.
3. If the fees are being paid.

Most states allow safe-deposit box contents to be turned over by the bank, or auctioned off at the 7 or 10 year mark (which method they use, depends on state law). However, most states don't require action at those times. Most allow willing companies to hold the contents as long as they wish.

Some banks will hold the contents as long as the box rental fee is being paid.

Whether it is the bank, or the State that auctions the contents off, the money is turned over to the State's Unclaimed (or Abandoned) Property office/division.

My mother has been working for the Utah State Division of Unclaimed Property for 20 years. I am most familiar with the laws in Utah, but have learned that most states have the same basic set of laws (with slight variations, where desired).

Don't let your box go dormant for more than a few years (and make sure the fees are paid). Having it emptied and turned over to the state (or emptied and auctioned), is a very real possibility.


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but you probably don't want to be the "guy with a gun", in a bank (whether you're "depositing" or "withdrawing").
Why not?

I carry in my bank all the time, both when depositing and when withdrawing. AFAIK it's not against any law, and the banks have no signs saying "No Weapons."
Some states DO have laws against firearms in banks, and most banks around here DO have "no firearms" signs.
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