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Old July 9, 2015, 02:07 AM   #1
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NEW "Novem" 9mm Bolt Action conversions.

For years folk have been begging me for a 9mm bolt action conversion.

Well, the perfect host action finally came on the market.
Armscor 22 TCM works great, no need for a magazine adapter so they are fairly simple to do.

I've done several versions of the "Novem", here is the latest, a non-SBR suppressor host.

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Old July 9, 2015, 05:28 PM   #2
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Thats pretty slick.

Looks like an interesting rifle. Does the suppressor just drop into the cage and thread up?

What are you getting for them too?
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Old July 9, 2015, 05:45 PM   #3
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I have to ask.... Why?
A semiautomatic 9mm carbine I understand. I don't understand a bolt action chambered in 9mm...
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Old July 9, 2015, 08:23 PM   #4
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Why?
There is a demand for them, I was not kidding about the begging.

Actually makes good sense as ammo is fairly cheap and a clear step up in power from .22 but recoil is still negligible.
The converted guns are actually lighter than the original .22 TCM with it's heavy 20" barrel.

I've shot these against semi-auto's with the same suppressor on each and the bolt action is clearly superior.
It eliminates action noise along with gas/noise escaping the chamber end.

If you want to see how quiet your suppressor REALLY is you need a bolt action.

This one was made to take an AAC Tirant 9mm.
All but an inch of the Tirant will fit inside the permanently attached slotted cup, 16.2" barrel.
So the gun stays as short as possible without the need of any NFA hassles.

As shown $850 on a NEW action.
Without the cup a 16" or SBR is $750 introductory price.
An integral suppressor version is also available.

http://www.specialinterestarms.com/index.php?page=novem
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Old July 9, 2015, 08:27 PM   #5
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Thanks
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Old July 10, 2015, 07:21 AM   #6
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Very cool. What do you use for sights though?
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Old July 10, 2015, 11:12 AM   #7
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The receiver is grooved for 11mm bases as is common to most european guns.
I've bought rings to fit over the counter at Sportsmans Warehouse.
Armscor sells a rail to fit and there are a lot of options available on-line.

The action is also plenty thick to drill and tap for a Picitinny rail.
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Old July 11, 2015, 06:48 PM   #8
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Cool, I like the integrally supressed one, kind of like a de lisle jr.
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Old July 13, 2015, 02:14 PM   #9
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what about magazines ? any mod needed ?
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Old October 28, 2015, 11:27 PM   #10
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No mods at all for mags, even the 17 Rd. 9mm pistol mags fit.

Finally got around to doing a "Normal" Novem 16" barrel carbine.
AR 9mm flash hider is used as a thread protector.


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Old October 29, 2015, 05:26 AM   #11
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Why??? I think it would be a great little ranch/camp gun. Nice looking too!
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Old October 29, 2015, 08:15 AM   #12
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The question isn't "Why?"
But "Why not?"
There's always room for new ideas.
If not we'd still be using clubs and rocks.
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Old October 29, 2015, 12:27 PM   #13
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Instead we use "clubs" that fire "rocks"...
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Old October 29, 2015, 02:53 PM   #14
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Don't have to chase after your brass firing a bolt action. Only thing I see wrong with the one pictured is no iron sights.
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Old October 29, 2015, 05:52 PM   #15
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Looks like you did some great work there.
Have you got any targets you can show us? I remember this being brought up at one point in the past and someone poopooing on the accuracy due to 'limitations of 9mm parabellum cartridge'. I figured it would be for practical woods use up to about 75 yards and maybe punch paper a little farther. SOrt of figured they could be reasonably accurate out to those ranges.

Any chance you'd make a Glock mag conversion I'm kidding about personally wanting one, although I am sure some would be interested.
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Old October 29, 2015, 06:11 PM   #16
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Need some one younger and steadier to do the shooting for me.
Currently the guns are more accurate than I am.
Any volunteers?
I have an SBR and integrally suppressed here for the task.

I hate to quote group sizes as it varies so much by the shooter.
I got about the circumference of a quarter at fifty yards using a red-dot that was larger than the bullseye, on a windy day, with my wavering hold.
Two rounds touched.
147 Gr. Winchester.

So I'm confident that a better shooter and real optics could certainly get a very nice group.
I would put the usable range as being out to 150 yards, maybe 200.
You can certainly reach further but I expect the group and energy to be weak at 300.

Iron sights can certainly be done, I've just tried to keep it simple and the cost down.
Seems MANY new guns do not include factory iron sights anymore.
The 22-TCM I start with does not have them.

Glock mags go into my AR-15 builds, in several calibers.
And maybe the new project I am sort of working on for next year.
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Old October 29, 2015, 07:21 PM   #17
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Need some one younger and steadier to do the shooting for me.
Me Me Me!
JK, NV is quite a drive and, although maybe younger, probably no steadier.

I'm not looking for a sub-MOA target rifle, so it sounds like your in the ball park.
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Old November 2, 2015, 02:08 AM   #18
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More of these are getting into buyers hands.
One also went out to a well known on-line forum for testing.
So there should be plenty of independent reporting soon.
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Old November 2, 2015, 04:31 AM   #19
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PRECISION SHOOTER, consider the De Lisle carbine. Also consider the trend toward more prevalent use of suppressors.

The need for sentry-removal weapons may not be what it was, but the attention paid to noise abatement is greater than it's ever been.
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