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Old August 17, 2011, 12:53 PM   #1
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Remington 870 safety size.

I have an 870, this much is obvious... The safety on it is rather small, and inconvenient to quickly activate. I want to try a bigger one, but can't find what it actually does.

The safety in question is http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport...&swEnvOID=2093

Does it extend the safety to allow easier "switch to fire" activation? Is it recommended? It is really the only thing I lust after to make the 870 perfect...
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Old August 17, 2011, 01:29 PM   #2
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Your link brings up a Hewlett-Packard website. Nothing to do with guns.
The safety on my 870 seems just fine as it is, IMHO.
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Old August 17, 2011, 01:56 PM   #3
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.....

That's what I get for posting while working...

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct...tNumber=946594

This is the safety I was talking about. I am guessing it allows easier access to take it off safe, but wanted to confirm that before buying it.
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Old August 17, 2011, 02:21 PM   #4
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I don't have any trouble with the standard safety, it's easy enough to pop off with the tip of the trigger finger. The ST version works OK but I wouldn't spend extra to get it.

There's one more option out there I know of. As much as I like most of what 'Uncle Hans' does for shotguns, their safety design is almost dangerous IMHO. I won't have one in a gun here, but if you have micro fingers it might help.

http://www.shop.vangcomp.net/product...7&categoryId=7

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Old August 17, 2011, 02:40 PM   #5
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I have one of the oversize safety buttons that came on the Benelli M-1 I bought used. Until I tried it I would have thought it was probably a waste of money. But since using one I think they are great.

I have always mounted my gun, placed the trigger finger inside the trigger guard as I point the muzzle toward the target and disengaged the safety with the 2nd joint of my trigger finger. It can be done with the factory safety, but the oversize button makes it much easier, especially with gloves on.
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Old August 17, 2011, 02:47 PM   #6
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I have one of the oversize safety buttons that came on the Benelli M-1 I bought used. Until I tried it I would have thought it was probably a waste of money. But since using one I think they are great.

I have always mounted my gun, placed the trigger finger inside the trigger guard as I point the muzzle toward the target and disengaged the safety with the 2nd joint of my trigger finger. It can be done with the factory safety, but the oversize button makes it much easier, especially with gloves on.
Precisely what I was wondering... I *can* reach for it with my fingertip, but I am wanting to be able to hit it with a well placed knuckle-poke without removing my finger from a good trigger "vantage point", or risking brushing the trigger on a fast transition from safety to trigger.
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Old August 17, 2011, 08:28 PM   #7
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I have an oversize safety button on my 870. It allows me to disengage the safety with the side of my finger without removing it from the trigger.
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Old August 17, 2011, 09:56 PM   #8
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For the last half century or so I've done well with the standard safety. All it took was a bit of practice.

If it's bigger, it's easier to knock off. While true safety depends on safe techniques and The Four Rules, I doubt a safety that's easier to have off inadvertently is a good idea...
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Old August 17, 2011, 10:52 PM   #9
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I have an oversize safety button on my 870. It allows me to disengage the safety with the side of my finger without removing it from the trigger.
We must shoot under different scenarios. My finger doesn't go inside the trigger guard unless I'm about to shoot and the safety is already off. Actually, I've never used the safety on my R-1100 (same as on the R-870), but I've used it only for target work.
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Old August 18, 2011, 04:04 AM   #10
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It's actually safer this way as well as faster. With the smaller button the safety is disengaged before the gun is mounted. With a larger safety button the gun can be mounted, pointed at the target, trigger inside the triggerguard, then take the safety to the "FIRE" position. It is the exact same finger motion as disengaging the safety on a Garand or Mini-14. You just us the 2nd joint of your finger to bump the safety.

It can be done with a standard safety button, just not as effectively. Especally when wearing gloves. If you've never tried it you should. I think you will find it to be safer, and faster. The safety is in the "SAFE" position until the muzzle is pointed at the target and only comes off a fraction of a second before firing.
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Old August 18, 2011, 06:32 AM   #11
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I set my personal shotguns up with an oversize safety as I like how they work.

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Old August 18, 2011, 11:53 AM   #12
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Thanks for the replies all. I mean no offense, but how well the standard safety works for you, it doesn't for me. I want to be able to deactivate it with my finger forward, next to and above the trigger guard, rather than pirate hooked back. I have large hands, extra long fingers, and if I maintain a proper grip, after curling my finger to the safety, using it, my finger brushes past the trigger whether I go back to start or go to the trigger. And when shooting, I don't want to let go of the stock, disengage the safety, grip the stock, get back in form, then shoot, if it can be easier and safer.
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Old August 18, 2011, 12:20 PM   #13
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I have large hands, extra long fingers...
Have you ever tried a stock with a palm swell? The R-870 was sized for the average shooter. If you're not average, then you may have to alter the gun.
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Old August 18, 2011, 12:36 PM   #14
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As I recall, the Scattergun oversized safety puts extra material on the left side of the gun, to make it easier to activate the safety. I've got one here somewhere.
The Vang Comp unit, which I have on all three of my 870s, puts the extra material on the right side, making it easier to de-activate.

I don't buy ninja gear, my shotguns are modified, but lightly so, with each modification serving a purpose that enhances performance to meet my needs & preferences.
The Vang Comp safety is worth the money.
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Old August 18, 2011, 01:11 PM   #15
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I want a "positive" safety, by which I mean one that takes deliberate action to take it off and if I have taken it off I am postive it is off. I don't know about bumping it with the pad of a second digit. One of the worse scenarios I can comprehend, in a defense situation, is you attempt to fire at the BG and the safety is on.

Perhaps the worse scenario is you have your finger in the trigger guard and go to disengage the safety by bumping it with your second diggit, but when you do you prematurely discharge the weapon. This is more of a risk for those with light triggers.

Hunting may be another story. Leave the safety engaged and disengage it as you mount. If it doesn't disengage you only miss a bird and wouldn't keeping the gun on safety as long as possible afford a greater margin of safety to other hunters? In the HD scenarion you may be dead.

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Old August 18, 2011, 01:34 PM   #16
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My finger doesn't go inside the trigger guard unless I'm about to shoot and the safety is already off.
Perhaps I should clarify that I was talking about hunting and target shooting. Where I hunt you walk mounted if you want a shot. Back home, the short barrel goes on and the safety goes off and is ignored.
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Old August 18, 2011, 02:06 PM   #17
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The safety is the ONLY thing about an 870 that I don't like. Probably because all my other shotguns have the safety on top of the receiver, when you can switch it with your thumb as you mount the gun.

I actually HAVE missed a few birds because I missed activating my 870 safety. I don't remember any details, and I was probably wearing gloves at the time, since I use my 870 mostly for ducks, and a double mostly for upland.

So given that set of facts, I would consider the larger safety a good thing.
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