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Old August 15, 2011, 06:59 AM   #1
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Best Pistol Trigger?

I marvel at how good the trigger is on the Walther PPS. Short take-up, short reset. Much easier to keep on target.

Clearly a long take-up (such as my Sig P229 first shot DAO) makes the gun harder to hold on target (though I love my Sig). The Walther is much easier to shoot.

- Does anybody have any preferences as to triggers?
- Any stories about best/worst pistol triggers?
- Has anyone ever had a trigger mod done on their pistol? How did that turn out?
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Old August 15, 2011, 07:35 AM   #2
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The best trigger out of the box for me was a Series 70 Gold Cup National Match pistol.

The only thing that I have personally shot that really comes close is a Dan Wesson Point Man 9.

My Sig Elites have a very nice single action pull and short reset but the double action first pull is long. None of the Sigs have been modified.

My two CZs have both been worked on at the custom shop and the triggers are nice.

They are not equal to the Gold Cup ot the Dan Wesson however.

Two of my Glocks have the 3.5 lb dis-connecter in them and shoot pretty good.

My G30 is not modified at all.

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Old August 15, 2011, 07:44 AM   #3
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All things considered, the classic Sig DA/SA system does it for me----------enough detente on the DA pull to give me a sense of confidence and security in carrying a pistol with one in the chamber yet a very crisp SA pull once the fun gets started. It is probably not the best set-up as far as sheer feel but big-picture-wise, it is perfect for me. The best feel would have to be a well-tuned 1911 IMHO.
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Old August 15, 2011, 08:04 AM   #4
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I've shot a broken in Walther PPS. It was indeed choice and almost perfect for me. It felt like a perfect build up and release.

With that exception, I prefer SA type triggers.
My best trigger pull was a Ruger target with about 2.5 lbs pressure.
I never tested my old S&W model 29 hogleg but in SA mode I swear you just thought "shoot" and it shot.
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Old August 15, 2011, 08:11 AM   #5
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Would rate 1911 (various manufacturers) SA triggers as the best, never met a bad one.

PPS - yes, you are right, an excellent trigger, SA like, superior to Glock, and right now the best overall polymer CC pistol. My Sig P239 has an excellent DA (long but butter-smooth pull) and SA trigger, it has Sig's SRT system, don't know if all Sigs are this good...have heard complaints about triggers on the larger (non 1911) Sigs. The Sig 1911 SA trigger is quite good. The XDm trigger is OK. The Kahr DAO trigger is excellent.

Worst trigger...well the AMT is pretty heavy, but once the trigger components are deburred, stoned, buffed/polished they get lighter and consistent. Tho I've done a lot of trigger jobs (never on a 1911, they have all been good) I have less success with polymer, seems I can improve them somewhat, but cannot get them to 1911 standards.

Most polymer guns have 'mushy' triggers (to me), would probably be better if manufacturers made the trigger components out of metal.
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Old August 15, 2011, 08:26 AM   #6
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My HK P7M8 always had an excellent trigger, right out of the box probably the best trigger on a striker-fired gun.
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Old August 15, 2011, 08:35 AM   #7
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I take what I said back about the 1911. The HK P7M8 has the best trigger IMHO
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Old August 15, 2011, 08:36 AM   #8
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It is hard to beat a nicely tuned 1911 trigger. Some guns like a S&W Performance center gun, Colt Python, Sig P210 are in the mix but across the board the 1911 is hard to beat.

The worse well a who really cares..... LOL
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Old August 15, 2011, 08:37 AM   #9
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My best triggers are on my 1911 and my Witness Elite Match, which is SA only. I'm always looking for a light, crisp breaking trigger. The best are actually on revolvers in SA mode.
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Old August 15, 2011, 08:48 AM   #10
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I like a well set up 1911 trigger.
It has short take-up, short pull to let off, short over travel, and can be crisp and consistent.
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Old August 15, 2011, 10:01 AM   #11
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My P7 has a 3.5 lb trigger .Consistant , safe, reliable !
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Old August 15, 2011, 10:12 AM   #12
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My best is on my S&W 41. Almost to good if that is posiable.
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Old August 15, 2011, 11:56 AM   #13
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This bugs me

The trigger on my Glock 17L is turrible !

But on the Glock forums the Glock fans tell me that I just need to "train with it", and then I will learn to shoot it accurately.

I feel like shouting "No ! I need to put a fricken trigger in it that isn't crap!"
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Old August 15, 2011, 12:20 PM   #14
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Best trigger means to me a platform where no levers need to be flipped or no grip devices squeezed----point and shoot. Like everything else, for me to have the level of safety I desire, that calls for compromise.
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Old August 15, 2011, 12:30 PM   #15
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another vote for the p7.

cz nice once broken in.
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Old August 15, 2011, 12:43 PM   #16
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Best triggers to me are on well tuned 1911's ...

Its an issue on how the triggers are designed --- and on a 1911 - the trigger travels straight back in a channel in the frame of the gun ...and straight forward to reset. Well tuned - with no creep or slack ...its hard to beat.

On any gun with a hinged trigger - even like a Sig Single Action Only trigger - its still hinged ...and it has to travel thru an arc ...back and forward..and there is just no way it'll ever be better than a trigger that moves with no arc..
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Old August 15, 2011, 12:49 PM   #17
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1911.

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Old August 15, 2011, 12:58 PM   #18
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I love the trigger on my P7... and it's hard to beat a DA/SA Sig or a 1911.

Some of the worst triggers I've experience were "pocket pistols" with the exeption of the Sig 238 and the Kahr P380.
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Old August 15, 2011, 01:21 PM   #19
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Of the pistols I've personally shot, I'd have to say the best triggers I've encountered are:
  • Walther P99 AS - smooth, DA/SA emulation
  • Ruger SR9c - very little trigger motion
  • Walther PPQ - crisp and smooth
  • Caracal - very much like the PPQ
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Old August 15, 2011, 07:08 PM   #20
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I think that 1911s generally have superior triggers. That said, I'm very happy with the trigger on my CZ 75B SA. I've not had mine modified, it's strictly factory. Out of the box it was nothing special. But, I've put about 1500 rounds through this gun and the trigger has steadily improved. Now, it's excellent, both light and very crisp.
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Old August 15, 2011, 07:42 PM   #21
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Hmmmm

Of all my handguns I think my Hk USP .45 Expert has the best trigger and my M&P 9 the worst. My Kimber TLE II 1911 ranks up there pretty high but in general it feels small in my hand so the ergonomics aren't the best for me.

Of my smaller handguns the Hk4 has a very clean break and the SIG P225 has a nice overall feel although it is also small in my hand.
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Old August 15, 2011, 10:41 PM   #22
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My S&W 41, S&W 52 and Gold Cup all have nice triggers; however, I suspect the OP is curious about DA triggers.
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Old August 15, 2011, 10:49 PM   #23
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Glock fans tell me that I just need to "train with it", and then I will learn to shoot it accurately.


1911's, because life is too short to have to learn to deal with crappy triggers.
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Old August 15, 2011, 11:02 PM   #24
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The trigger pull on this 1911 is the best I've ever tried. It is the proverbial "breaking a thin glass rod". And it is too light for carry work.



Next to it, it is pretty much a tie between these (a mix of 1911's and P7's):









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Old August 15, 2011, 11:39 PM   #25
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My Springfield 1911 has the best trigger in my collection.
Second best surprisingly (at least to me) has been my first gen Walther P99.
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