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Old August 13, 2011, 01:46 PM   #1
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Load reco's .38spl & .45acp

Can someone suggest starting loads using Bullseye for the following bullets?

1. Berry's 158gr jacketed flat point (box also says DS)

2. Remington 230gr FMJ-RN

Can't seem to find load data for these exact bullets in the guides I have. Thanks.
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Old August 13, 2011, 01:55 PM   #2
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For the Berry's 158gr since it’s a plated bullet use the same load as a lead bullet.

For the 45 ACP 230 you can find loads at the following sites, just use the same load as listed by weight and type (lead or jacketed)and don’t worry about manufacture. Start on the low side and work up.
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Old August 14, 2011, 05:49 AM   #3
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The 158g = not much; use cast lead data.

The 230g = 4.6g.
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Old August 14, 2011, 06:25 AM   #4
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Bullseye for many years was considered THE target powder for the .45 ACP and almost everyone who loads a 230 grain bullet uses 4.6 grains of bullseye under that bullet. I've got one powder measure dedicated to the load.

For the .38 special, I've long used 2.7 grains of Bullseye under a 148 grain wadcutter for target work.
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Old August 14, 2011, 10:00 AM   #5
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.38- I settled on 3.1 gr BE w/ a 158 gr cast SWC. I would start around 2.7 and see what works best.
.45- 4.6 gr of BE is my default w/ cast 230 gr bullets. IIRC, I started at around 4.2 during testing. 5.0 gr w/ a 230 FMJ was the go-to load for mil spec ammo for a few decades, so you could do worse.

Sounds like you could use more data.
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Old August 15, 2011, 12:03 PM   #6
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Thank to everyone for their input.

The Alliant guide states max charge of 3.5g of Bullseye for a Speer LSWC 158g. If I start about -10% that's about 3.1 so I'll try that range.

Also says max charge of 5.7g of BE for a Speer 230g TMJ RN (same as FMJ?) - seems high given your comments. Lee says max 5.0g of BE for a 230g jacketed bullet. -10% brings me down to the 4.5-4.6 range you guys reco. Is Alliant just wrong?
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Old August 15, 2011, 04:41 PM   #7
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Berry's says to use low to midrange jacketed data.

I used 3.7grains of Bullseye behind my 158 grain round nose bullets and it works great.
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