This is the BEST damn shotgun EVER! I need it!

boxjeff · August 10, 2011, 12:28 PM

Where can I get one off these - AA-12? It even shoots saturated with water.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOoUV...feature=fvwrel

**hogdogs** · August 10, 2011, 12:32 PM

Full auto... built after 1986... you can't have one!

Brent

boxjeff · August 10, 2011, 12:33 PM

Isn't there a license that I can get to have full auto? Outside of NJ of course.

Would it be possible to find one of these in the USA?

oneounceload · August 10, 2011, 12:52 PM

Weren't these classified as a D.D., therefore a no-no?

P97 · August 10, 2011, 12:55 PM

I want two!

**hogdogs** · August 10, 2011, 01:08 PM

First off NFA rules dictate full auto ANYTHING would have have a DoM of previous to the 1986 ruling.

Secondly, the AA-12 is a Destructive device by definition...

Bore in excess of .50 inch.
Smooth bore breech loading shell firing.

i think both apply and there may be other factors...

If you want the real truthful skinny on any such considerations, I refer you to the "NFA" section below this one... Them folks got the dope on the whole NFA realm.

Brent

boxjeff · August 10, 2011, 01:19 PM

I could not resist posting this link!!

Enjoy
http://www.youtube.com/user/FPSRussia#p/u/3/dSp7CipN1pw

boxjeff · August 10, 2011, 08:51 PM

How does he have two AA-12s in the USA and at his home?? Special permit?

**hogdogs** · August 10, 2011, 09:21 PM

Where does one go to know he is in America?

Brent

boxjeff · August 10, 2011, 10:10 PM

He is an extremely popular youtube talent, is American and located some ware in the Midwest

Nnobby45 · August 10, 2011, 10:20 PM

Looks like a nice court defensible weapon. What problems could you have there?

Think I'll stick with my 870.

Cool T- Shirt though.

**hogdogs** · August 10, 2011, 10:25 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsSA_kCt5lg
In this vid above, he is claiming to be shooting glock 17 in full auto... I am guessing the vids are not made in the usa. If they are, he has some hot stuff...

Brent

boxjeff · August 10, 2011, 10:27 PM

He is in the USA.
Could he have access to a gun smith collection or a special license like the guys on Suns of Guns?

boxjeff · August 10, 2011, 10:29 PM

Just found it...he explains how here:

http://www.squidoo.com/fpsrussia

boxjeff · August 10, 2011, 10:30 PM

A new look at home protection:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSp7C...layer_embedded

**hogdogs** · August 10, 2011, 10:39 PM

I think if made after 1986, the gun will be a "dealer Sample" and handled differently than other full auto firearms...

Brent

C0untZer0 · August 11, 2011, 01:33 AM

"Dimitri" has a fake Russian accent.

psycho nut · August 15, 2011, 02:59 AM

Quote:

Secondly, the AA-12 is a Destructive device by definition...

Bore in excess of .50 inch.
Smooth bore breech loading shell firing.

I was under the impression that shotguns were exempt from this rule. Otherwise, every 12 gauge in the country would be illegal.

darkgael · August 16, 2011, 08:38 AM

AA-12 cyclic rate = 300 rpm

Pat Flanagan - Winchester SX3 cyclic rate = 514 rpm.

oneounceload · August 16, 2011, 09:37 AM

Quote:

I was under the impression that shotguns were exempt from this rule. Otherwise, every 12 gauge in the country would be illegal.

As would 20 and 28 gauge - they are exempt for sporting purposes - since this model, in the eyes of the gov't, has no sporting purposes, it has been deigned a Destructive Device

micromontenegro · August 16, 2011, 10:16 AM

No eye or hearing protection? Good luck with that!

**hogdogs** · August 16, 2011, 11:56 AM

Quote:

Quote:
I was under the impression that shotguns were exempt from this rule. Otherwise, every 12 gauge in the country would be illegal.
As would 20 and 28 gauge - they are exempt for sporting purposes - since this model, in the eyes of the gov't, has no sporting purposes, it has been deigned a Destructive Device

Tanks-a-tun OOL,
Brent

August 10, 2011, 12:28 PM	#1
boxjeff Senior Member Join Date: July 23, 2008 Location: NJ Posts: 240	This is the BEST damn shotgun EVER! I need it! Where can I get one off these - AA-12? It even shoots saturated with water. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOoUV...feature=fvwrel

August 10, 2011, 12:32 PM	#2
hogdogs Staff Join Date: October 31, 2007 Location: Western Florida panhandle Posts: 10,684	Full auto... built after 1986... you can't have one! Brent __________________ Finally have designs going up in the Hogdogs Outdoor Apparel online store. http://www.cafepress.com/hogdogsoutdoorapparel Thanks for lookin'...

August 10, 2011, 12:55 PM	#5
P97 Senior Member Join Date: September 19, 2006 Location: Panama, Ok. Posts: 660	I want two! __________________ Visit: Early Risers Coffee Shop Happy and Safe Shooting !!!

August 10, 2011, 01:08 PM	#6
hogdogs Staff Join Date: October 31, 2007 Location: Western Florida panhandle Posts: 10,684	First off NFA rules dictate full auto ANYTHING would have have a DoM of previous to the 1986 ruling. Secondly, the AA-12 is a Destructive device by definition... Bore in excess of .50 inch. Smooth bore breech loading shell firing. i think both apply and there may be other factors... If you want the real truthful skinny on any such considerations, I refer you to the "NFA" section below this one... Them folks got the dope on the whole NFA realm. Brent __________________ Finally have designs going up in the Hogdogs Outdoor Apparel online store. http://www.cafepress.com/hogdogsoutdoorapparel Thanks for lookin'...

August 10, 2011, 09:21 PM	#9
hogdogs Staff Join Date: October 31, 2007 Location: Western Florida panhandle Posts: 10,684	Where does one go to know he is in America? Brent __________________ Finally have designs going up in the Hogdogs Outdoor Apparel online store. http://www.cafepress.com/hogdogsoutdoorapparel Thanks for lookin'...

August 10, 2011, 12:33 PM	#3
boxjeff Senior Member Join Date: July 23, 2008 Location: NJ Posts: 240	Isn't there a license that I can get to have full auto? Outside of NJ of course. Would it be possible to find one of these in the USA?

August 10, 2011, 12:52 PM	#4
oneounceload Junior member Join Date: April 18, 2008 Location: N. Central Florida Posts: 8,518	Weren't these classified as a D.D., therefore a no-no?

August 10, 2011, 01:19 PM	#7
boxjeff Senior Member Join Date: July 23, 2008 Location: NJ Posts: 240	I could not resist posting this link!! Enjoy http://www.youtube.com/user/FPSRussia#p/u/3/dSp7CipN1pw

August 10, 2011, 08:51 PM	#8
boxjeff Senior Member Join Date: July 23, 2008 Location: NJ Posts: 240	How does he have two AA-12s in the USA and at his home?? Special permit?

August 10, 2011, 10:10 PM	#10
boxjeff Senior Member Join Date: July 23, 2008 Location: NJ Posts: 240	He is an extremely popular youtube talent, is American and located some ware in the Midwest

August 10, 2011, 10:20 PM	#11
Nnobby45 Senior Member Join Date: November 20, 2004 Posts: 3,143	Looks like a nice court defensible weapon. What problems could you have there? Think I'll stick with my 870. Cool T- Shirt though.

August 10, 2011, 10:25 PM	#12
hogdogs Staff Join Date: October 31, 2007 Location: Western Florida panhandle Posts: 10,684	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsSA_kCt5lg In this vid above, he is claiming to be shooting glock 17 in full auto... I am guessing the vids are not made in the usa. If they are, he has some hot stuff... Brent __________________ Finally have designs going up in the Hogdogs Outdoor Apparel online store. http://www.cafepress.com/hogdogsoutdoorapparel Thanks for lookin'...

August 10, 2011, 10:27 PM	#13
boxjeff Senior Member Join Date: July 23, 2008 Location: NJ Posts: 240	He is in the USA. Could he have access to a gun smith collection or a special license like the guys on Suns of Guns?

August 10, 2011, 10:29 PM	#14
boxjeff Senior Member Join Date: July 23, 2008 Location: NJ Posts: 240	Just found it...he explains how here: http://www.squidoo.com/fpsrussia

August 10, 2011, 10:30 PM	#15
boxjeff Senior Member Join Date: July 23, 2008 Location: NJ Posts: 240	A new look at home protection: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSp7C...layer_embedded

August 10, 2011, 10:39 PM	#16
hogdogs Staff Join Date: October 31, 2007 Location: Western Florida panhandle Posts: 10,684	I think if made after 1986, the gun will be a "dealer Sample" and handled differently than other full auto firearms... Brent __________________ Finally have designs going up in the Hogdogs Outdoor Apparel online store. http://www.cafepress.com/hogdogsoutdoorapparel Thanks for lookin'...

August 11, 2011, 01:33 AM	#17
C0untZer0 Junior member Join Date: April 21, 2011 Location: Illinois Posts: 4,555	"Dimitri" has a fake Russian accent.

August 16, 2011, 08:38 AM	#19
darkgael Senior Member Join Date: February 9, 2006 Location: Homes in Brooklyn, NY and in Pennsylvania. Posts: 3,977	full auto? AA-12 cyclic rate = 300 rpm Pat Flanagan - Winchester SX3 cyclic rate = 514 rpm. __________________ "Only hunting and mountain climbing are sports. The rest are just games." - R.Ruark NRA Life Member

August 16, 2011, 10:16 AM	#21
micromontenegro Senior Member Join Date: December 28, 2010 Location: Caracas, Venezuela Posts: 356	No eye or hearing protection? Good luck with that!