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Old July 10, 2011, 11:05 PM   #1
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I just screwed up my colt 1911

I over ramped my colt 1911, who is a good gun smith that can build it back up, and how much money am I looking at Picture 660.jpg

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Old July 11, 2011, 12:51 AM   #2
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You screwed up the picture, too.
Take a better one.
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Old July 11, 2011, 01:27 AM   #3
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Man I love, and anxiously await each and every post from Bill- the man oozes genius!

Seriously Bill, you have my upmost respect- I've gained vast amounts of knowledge from you over the years.
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Old July 11, 2011, 01:56 AM   #4
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You could send it to Barstow and have a custom ramped barrel put it.

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Old July 11, 2011, 02:01 AM   #5
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The picture of the ramp is very bad. It's hard to give advice when you don't know what you're looking at!
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Old July 11, 2011, 03:19 AM   #6
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From what I can see, it appears that you have overthroated the barrel. That can be fixed by a new barrel.

It also appears that you have been grinding away on the frame, as well. That is a major problem.

For some reason, one of the first things attacked on the 1911 frame are those mysterious "bumps" on the side. Those are guides for the cartridge, and they are there for a reason. If you remove those, the gun might not even feed hardball.

The only fix I can see for this is to take the whole pistol to a REPUTABLE gunsmith, and have them install a fully ramped barrel. The other fix is to get another frame--but be advised, you are NOT going to get a Colt receiver unless you buy a whole pistol.
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Old July 11, 2011, 07:30 AM   #7
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Get a new barrel.

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Old July 11, 2011, 07:33 AM   #8
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Duct tape? Oh, and put away the dremel?

Sorry, just having a bit of fun on a lazy (me being lazy) day.
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Old July 11, 2011, 07:51 AM   #9
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Looks to me like the Dremel needs to be thrown away rather than put away, and pretty quickly too. On guns, a Dremel should be limited to polishing only!

Just my two cents.
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Old July 11, 2011, 07:51 AM   #10
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I have to agree with Bill on the picture, I could not tell much from it.

That being said if the ramp in the frame is over cut there's two ways to repair it without buyng a new frame.

It's already been suggested to have a ramp barrel fit to the gun, that's one way to fix the problem of an over cut ramp.

The other way is to mill out the old ramp and install a new steel ramp insert in it's place.

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Old July 11, 2011, 07:59 AM   #11
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Ah the good old Dremel, I've always said it has the distinction of being the number one tool for getting gunsmiths work.

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Old July 11, 2011, 08:14 AM   #12
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Geezerbiker has it right. Send the pistol to Bar-Sto for them to fit their ramped barrel. You'll wind up with the best 1911 barrel on the market and correct your mistake.
But FIRST throw out that Dremel. Never allow a Dremel tool within 50 yards of a any firearm.

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Old July 11, 2011, 08:56 AM   #13
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I live in SE Texas and there are a couple of decent gunsmiths in the area. Why would you even try to do something like that yourself?
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Old July 11, 2011, 08:58 AM   #14
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Ya gotta love the good old kitchen table gunsmiths and the following quote states it all.

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Ah the good old Dremel, I've always said it has the distinction of being the number one tool for getting gunsmiths work.
If the above statement and this thread doesn't open up the eyes of the kitchen gunsmiths nothing will. From the OP's statement and the replies from our professional gunsmiths this is going to be a PRICEY FIX

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Why would you even try to do something like that yourself?
Because he owns a Dremil and knows how to use it
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Old July 11, 2011, 11:06 AM   #15
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Old July 11, 2011, 12:10 PM   #16
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Before doing anything, try it out, first.
It could surprise you.
With some luck, it might work, in spite of these mistakes.
Sometimes a couple of mistakes can cancel one another.
It's worth a try, at least.
What's to lose.
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Old July 11, 2011, 12:35 PM   #17
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I would not be so harsh on the idea of home gunsmithing,but I do agree the Dremel is best kept away with few exceptions.
A reasonable approach;Do not change the geometry of the part unless there is a clear reason to modify it.Hand polishing stones,like are used in the mold business,can improve a surface finish,break sharp edges,etc.A piece of hardwood with lapping compound can work,too.
A 1911 is not a good platform for a rookie to work in a seat of the pants fashion.The functional relationships of the parts really have to be understood.
If you want to learn,Kuhnhausen manuals,and the Wilson Combat DVD set are good guidance.
Having a ramped bbl fit seems like a good remedy.
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Old July 11, 2011, 01:39 PM   #18
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screwed up colt 1911

quote"Ah the good old Dremel, I've always said it has the distinction of being the number one tool for getting gunsmiths work.

Best Regards
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I think if the truth be known the genreal public may be surprised as to how many gunsmith's have stealthy investents in the Dremel Company.
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Old July 11, 2011, 01:56 PM   #19
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Old July 11, 2011, 08:56 PM   #20
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Frame on the right, barrel on the left...the gap...I think he's showing us the barrel in place and there's not supposed to be a gap.

say, that is quite the over-ramp...I don't think a new barrel will be enough.
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Old July 11, 2011, 08:57 PM   #21
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The Dremel is a tool, just like any other tool. Don't blame the tool for what happens when folks don't know how to use it (and when NOT to use it).

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Old July 11, 2011, 09:23 PM   #22
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I did not need help understanding how stupid I was. I got that all by my self. Clark customs said $700+ new ramped barrel bushing and an action job,8-10 month.Or Triangle shooting sports came highly recommended $400 ramped kart bushing link tuning and fitting 4-6 week turnaround. Mr.Hill said he would take one of my other guns guns for payment.
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Old July 11, 2011, 09:32 PM   #23
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It might have been a long day hot sun and cold bxxr. maybe I end up with a better gun. I know I will have more money in it.
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Old July 12, 2011, 10:21 AM   #24
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Yes and unfortunately an expensive lesson learned. As they say when in doubt leave it alone or to the pro's.
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Old July 12, 2011, 10:46 AM   #25
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Hahaha dino man I love that pic
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