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Old July 17, 2011, 09:30 AM   #151
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Tex...

I guess by his logic if you put a round in your leg you're a dynamic stress virgin.

Lee Paige did a lot of things wrong leading up to him shooting himself. Having an ego that precludes having humility and respecting a very powerful tool was probably a contributing factor.

The people who scare me the most are the ones who have an answer for everything, love to debate, love to hear themself talk, love to teach other people, but bristle at being told what to do. Eager to give instruction but reluctant to seek it is a bad combination.
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Old July 17, 2011, 10:32 AM   #152
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Count0.....+ one on your last comment....

The people who scare me the most are the ones who have an answer for everything, love to debate, love to hear themself talk, love to teach other people, but bristle at being told what to do. Eager to give instruction but reluctant to seek it is a bad combination.


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Old July 17, 2011, 10:46 AM   #153
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Eager to give instruction but reluctant to seek it is a bad combination.
You need to be aware of what you do not actually know.
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Old July 17, 2011, 10:57 AM   #154
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"He didn't violate the gun safety laws intentionally"

Nope, but he did violate Irwin's Rule, which is...

Don't be a frigging idiot when you're handling your guns.

Sort of a catch-all rule to cover all situations...
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Old July 17, 2011, 09:19 PM   #155
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I guess by his logic if you put a round in your leg you're a dynamic stress virgin.
I'm starting a punk band, just so I can tell people I play bass for Dynamic Stress Virgin.
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Old July 18, 2011, 10:01 AM   #156
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I have the same Holster for my P95. NEVER did I think I was going to get a ND from it.If used properly I dont see how that can really happen.
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Old July 18, 2011, 10:07 AM   #157
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"Nothing wrong with he Serpa. This guy is just a idiot. He doesn't know how to draw. He flips off the safety with the gun still in the holster. He engages the trigger the minute it clears the holster. I am curious as to what training he is referring to. He certainly didn't appear to have any.
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Nothing wrong with flipping the saftey off when the gun is in the holster, some guns dont even have safeties as you know but putting your fingeron the trigger that early is a no-no. That finger shouldnt be in that trigger guard until he is on getting his sight picture, sure of his target or about to fire.
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Old July 18, 2011, 12:57 PM   #158
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what training he is referring to. He certainly didn't appear to have any.
Sort of what I thought. And now he's a movie star. On youtube. In a show he wrote and directed. Go figure.
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Old April 26, 2012, 09:13 AM   #159
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While i am all for firearm safety i have to go with human error on this one mixed with a poor design for a 1911 pistol its self. Any design that puts a pressure safety near a pressure required release isnt safe in my book. It maybe safe but its not human proof.
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Old April 26, 2012, 03:13 PM   #160
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I want to call my Blackhawk Serpa duty holster a "great holster" but I can't knowing that it is banned from some ranges, it can get fouled with snow, mud, and other debris and that if you aren't careful, can allow for an unintentional discharge. Knowing the above, I still love my holster. I can draw lightning fast and be on target when other officers are still monkeying with their holster's security mechanisms.
I won't recommend it to everyone because there are those out there who can't hold a gun without putting their finger on the trigger. Also, if they put some membrane over the trigger finger release so it won't get fouled, then great.
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Old April 27, 2012, 08:36 PM   #161
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LEO Shoot self

A LEO shot himself at my range whilst using a borrowed SERPA. Minor as gun shots go, though he was hospitalized.

I bought one for my Beretta clone, not realizing what it was.

After a little practice, back to OpticsPlanet.

Now banned at my range

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Old April 28, 2012, 10:05 PM   #162
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Got to this rodeo late. Looks like finger was on trigger when gun went off. (frame 0:27)
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Old April 28, 2012, 10:27 PM   #163
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In fact the gun is designed to go off when pressure is applied by the finger to the trigger.

And it did.
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Old April 28, 2012, 11:10 PM   #164
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The Serpa is safe provided you do not use the tip of your finger; use the pad and don't curl your finger. That keeps your finger out of the trigger guard on the draw. I've been using them since they first came out. 1911 then XDs. Never had one that used a thumb button thingy. Just the trigger guard latch.
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