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Old June 30, 2011, 05:54 AM   #1
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can you shoot a 454 casull in a judge?

i only ask as i have a redhawk in 454 casull and it will also shot 45 long colt , so since the judge shoots 45 lc will it also shoot 454 casull?
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Old June 30, 2011, 06:13 AM   #2
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Depending on the specific model of the judge you have you may be able too. Not all models of the Judge can safely fire 454 Casull.. Its not a round that I enjoy....
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Old June 30, 2011, 06:24 AM   #3
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No. Don't do this unless Taurus sends you written permission. Which they won't because if the Judge was designed for .454 Casull it would say so. Only the raging Judge is capable for that round.
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Old June 30, 2011, 06:26 AM   #4
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whats not to like? im looking for a alaskan in 454 also, the 44 mag from double tap in 300 grain barnes hits with 1100 ft pounds, the 454 with 250 grain barnes lead free hits with 1900 ft pounds? i dont own a judge yet but if it would shoot 454 id consider one
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Old June 30, 2011, 06:30 AM   #5
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i dont think they couldent shoot it, the reason is they fit , they make a 38 not to hold a 357 round but they work vice versa, if the round fits wouldent it open tem up to hugh liability? unless its designed to handle the load?
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Old June 30, 2011, 06:37 AM   #6
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.454 is about three times the boom a .45 colt is. don't shoot it unless the gun/manufacturer says you can. you would be risking very serious injury.
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Old June 30, 2011, 04:39 PM   #7
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SAAMI pressure rating of a .410 is 13,500 CUP

SAAMI pressure rating of 45 colt is 14,000 CUP

SAAMI pressure on a 454 Casull is 50,000 CUP

Judge isn't designed for it so my advice is no, no, 100 times no.
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Old June 30, 2011, 06:44 PM   #8
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can you shoot a 454 casull in a judge?
Yes you can. Once.
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Old June 30, 2011, 06:55 PM   #9
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There's some kind of "SuperJudge" built on the "Raging" series frame. Called the "Raging Judge" . Try it in anything else and yeah, "once" is exactly right. You'll scatter a regular Judge across the range.
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Old June 30, 2011, 08:45 PM   #10
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the raging Judge can take a 454 but a normal Judge will blow up with a 454
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Old July 1, 2011, 03:12 PM   #11
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I for one , wouldnt shoot at any Judge retired or otherwise....
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Old July 1, 2011, 03:39 PM   #12
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I wouldnt shoot .454 out of any taurus, even one chambered for .454


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Old July 1, 2011, 11:48 PM   #13
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Does EVERY post about a Taurus have to turn into a bash for you?
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Old July 2, 2011, 12:17 AM   #14
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Sadly No. Unless you got lucky and your cylinder is made of Tungsten or Carbon Steel. Other wise you can't. But you can in the new Taurus Raging Judge. It can shoot .45 Long Colt, .410 Gauge Shells, and .454 Casull.
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Old July 2, 2011, 12:23 AM   #15
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ghalleen, while bashing can get old, I would note that several of the forum members who bash Taurus quite a bit are gun dealers who deal in large volumes of handguns... that would make me go, hmmmm....

guys in the business of selling guns, who let it be known they don't like or won't carry some guns... even though those guns are very popular and sell like hotcakes... hmmm, why would they do that? Obviously, no reason...
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Old July 2, 2011, 01:11 AM   #16
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Sadly No. Unless you got lucky and your cylinder is made of Tungsten or Carbon Steel. Other wise you can't. But you can in the new Taurus Raging Judge. It can shoot .45 Long Colt, .410 Gauge Shells, and .454 Casull.
On a side note, All steel is carbon steel. When you mix (alloy) a little carbon with iron, what you get is steel. Check with this web site:
http://www.steel.org/
It belongs to the American Iron and Steel Institute of America.

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Old July 2, 2011, 03:52 AM   #17
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If you do it, take a video so we can watch the video at your funeral! I wouldn't try it. Big difference in pressure. Just because it fits is absolutely no reason just to assume it is safe!
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Old July 2, 2011, 07:06 AM   #18
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The Redhawk is not produced in .454 Casull. The Super Redhawk is. They are totally different guns.
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Old July 2, 2011, 08:20 AM   #19
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Old July 2, 2011, 10:31 AM   #20
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Does EVERY post about a Taurus have to turn into a bash for you?

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Old July 2, 2011, 12:48 PM   #21
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I've seen it done. I should have taken pictures. Long story short, don't do it.
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Old July 2, 2011, 11:36 PM   #22
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No. It just gets old, and doesn't add anything of value to the post. If someone asks a question about Taurus quality, then have at it. But this post was a question about something entirely different.
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