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Old June 28, 2011, 07:03 AM   #1
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S&W Model 13 HB .357 Mag

I just wanted to hear thoughts on this revolver from people who used it before. It is one of the coolest looking 357 revolvers out there in my mind and I want to grab one eventually. What are your thoughts on the subject is it a good revolver. Thanks for any input.
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Old June 28, 2011, 08:37 AM   #2
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The model 13 is a great revolver. Especially when compared to what is being produced these days by the company calling itself S&W. The 13 has none of the cost cutting measures implemented like MIM parts, nor any of the idiotic additions such as internal locks

The heavy barrel 13 in its 3" variant is an excellent example of a "combat revolver". Fixed sights, easily concealed, full length ejection of spent casings, relatively light weight. Everything you need in a revolver and nothing you don't.

I'm currently qualified with a 3" 13-3 for off duty use. I had a gunsmith render it DAO with a spurless hammer. It is one slick carry gun. Shoots to point of aim with 158 grain 357's.

I don't know if you are aware that 3" heavy barrel model 13's were the last issued revolvers by the FBI.

Buy it, shoot it, love it! Hope this helps! Regards 18DAI.
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Old June 28, 2011, 08:46 AM   #3
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Yea I was aware the FBI issued it. That did help thank you. I just love the sleek look of the M13 its one of the coolest looking, if not #1. I got my trusty 1911 in 45ACP now I need a trusty revolver in 357 and I think the M13HB will be it. Thanks.
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Old June 28, 2011, 09:09 AM   #4
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I own a 13-2 4 inch with the original grips . The revolver is one of my best shooters. I am a big fixed sight service revolver fan. I love the handling of the model 13. Like 18DAI said, it shoots POA with 158 gr 357 magnum. For the range I use CCI Blazer 158gr hollow points. Very accurate and not harsh on the revolver and my old hands.
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Old June 28, 2011, 09:16 AM   #5
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I have one that I've had for something like 20 years and in fact, it's my only revolver at the moment. Mine has a particularly smooth trigger pull. It does show its age but there's no rust. Just a nice patina. The barrel really adds a lot of weight to the gun, too, compared to a standard barrel Model 10.

A very similiar revolver is the Model 58 in .41 magnum and I had one of those for a while, too. I couldn't tell the difference between it and a Model 29 in recoil and blast but I thought the fixed sights were marginally more practical. The larger frame made the barrel look a little stubbier but it was still four inches.
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Old June 28, 2011, 09:23 AM   #6
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I had one years ago, really liked it. Best natural fitting revolver I ever owned (same with my model 64).

I got fancy, had it magnaported, put in night sights. It was great for a while. The smole from the magnaporting dirtied up the night sights making them useless. Also I shot the crap out of it with full house 357s. Lots of them, being a K Frame I shot it loose. It rattled like an worn out USGI 1911.

Still liked it, the feeel and fit. Finely I desided to go to a 38 spl in a simular gun, something I couldn't wear out. I got a Model 64 witch I use in ICORE. Sweetest action I ever found in a revolver. Best double action trigger ever.

I'd like to have another Model 13, only I'll stick to 38s, only using 357s if nevessary.

I have a mode 28 & 27 to burn up my 357 loads.
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Old June 28, 2011, 09:39 AM   #7
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I have a Model 13-3 4" that I just pure love. I bought it used with Hogue grips, I have had no luck finding original wood, but that's ok.

I keep it loaded with .357 mag Hydra-Shoks because it is my nightstand gun, but when I go to the range I mostly shoot .38 spc (non +p). With that load it shoots so nice and easy even the most recoil adverse person would not have a problem.

It's a great gun for first time shooters when I bring them to the range. It's a big exciting "357 MAGNUM" that they can shot and have fun with, it looks sexy, and I can take them from a powder puff load all the way to a real blaster, if they are ready.
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Old June 28, 2011, 04:17 PM   #8
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Thats cool sounds like most like the M13. I have heard nothing negative really and it sounds good. I really want to look into one of these. Id like to see some pics of ur M13s if you got them. They can fire pretty much all .357 loads, any I should stay away from.
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Old June 28, 2011, 05:23 PM   #9
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Basically, it's a M&P (Model 10) chambered for .357 Magnum. People who have them (as well as their stainless cousin the M65) tend to like them and hold on to them. Like other K-Frame Magnums, steady diets of magnums with light bullets (<140gr) are best avoided, but .38's and magnums with 140gr or heavier bullets are just fine. As has been mentioned, most examples will shoot to POA with 158gr bullets as that is standard weight for both .38 Special and .357 Magnum. Lighter bullets will likely shoot low and heavier bullets will shoot high. 4" barrel specimens typically have square-butt grip frames while 3" specimens are usually round butt, so keep that in mind when ordering grips. Because of the K-Frame's popularity, speedloaders are widely available from HKS, Safariland, and Maxfire and Bianchi and Tuff Products Speedstrips will also work.
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Old June 28, 2011, 06:11 PM   #10
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Thanks that was helpful info about the M13HB. I really like it, it is defintley on my list.
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Old June 28, 2011, 07:08 PM   #11
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Look for the 3" round butt. There's just something about a 3" K-frame. I have one and went ahead and picked up the stainless version too (model 65).
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Old June 28, 2011, 08:35 PM   #12
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I kno there really is just something about it that attracted me too it. Its Really nice looking wheelgun I like the Heavy Barrel.
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Old June 29, 2011, 05:11 PM   #13
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This is the only K Smith I have in .357. Great guns.
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Old June 29, 2011, 06:14 PM   #14
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Awesome nothing negative so far.
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Old June 29, 2011, 06:19 PM   #15
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Had a 3 incher once a real good gunsmith put adjustable sights on it (S&W sights at that.)

It, like the 2 1/2 M686 I sold off, I regret (this was 25 years ago guys... when S&W was one heck of a gun maker.)

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Old June 29, 2011, 06:52 PM   #16
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they are nice, shot well and look good. but they really make a better 38spl than a 357magnum. my m13 was my first 357, but was quickly replaced in the mag dept with L and N frame smiths that are much more suited to bringing out the most of the 357magnum cartridge.
load it with mags, shoot it with specials.
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Old June 29, 2011, 07:09 PM   #17
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My thoughts are that the heavy barrel achieves it's intended purpose and dampens recoil. I had a 3" version and it was not unpleasant to shoot with full power .357. Noticeably more pleasant than my M66--also a 3".
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Old June 29, 2011, 07:24 PM   #18
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Had a 3" HB also...sold it years ago when my dept switched to semi-autos. Regret doing that to this day!

I will own one again! Outstanding combat revolver, never had any type of problems whatsoever!
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Old June 29, 2011, 08:06 PM   #19
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Sounds great. I want to be able to shoot powerful 357 loads out of it. What do you guys recommend for bullet weight and such.
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Old June 29, 2011, 08:19 PM   #20
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ahh... my first handgun..... great shooter.
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Old June 29, 2011, 08:48 PM   #21
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M13-4 3" was my first S&W revolver, it led to a whole slew of them.. Great gun, I find it a little ruff on my hand to shoot alot .357s out of, and shoot mostly 38s or my mild .357 load, I keep it loaded with +P, which I think is plenty against men (shot placement mentality), but when in bear country load with .357 soft point..I bought a 66-3 3" to replace it but its just sits in the safe..
All in all there is something that just feels wright about a K frame, and I think 3" is just right for carry,

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Old June 29, 2011, 09:11 PM   #22
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The more I hear about this revolver the more I want it. What do you guys think for ammo though honestly for 357 someone was saying stay above 140gr. Could I shoot full house 357 out of it every once in a while you think? Just curious I want to be able to shoot some fast ones too. I really love thing revolver something about the heavy barrel on the frame makes it look really cool.
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Old June 29, 2011, 10:34 PM   #23
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I have a 13-3 3" revolver, currently fitted with a bobbed hammer and Ahrend's cocobolo round grips.

It's easily my favorite carry revolver. DA is very slick; it's a pussycat with .38 ammo, and no big deal with 158gr .357. I prefer a 158gr at just barely subsonic speed, for effectiveness with minimal noise, but it's accurate and controllable with full magnum loads.

The K-frame in general is one of the best natural pointers out there. The 3" barrel offers great balance, and is the shortest length that allows a full-length ejector rod. For shucking .357 cases, the full-length rod is a huge plus.

Only problem with the 3" 13 is that they are getting pricey; still worth it, but people have re-discovered them, and they are no longer in production. If you want one, get one soon.

Edit: I liked my 13 so much, I ended up buying a companion 3" round butt 65. My significant other liked that one so much that it's now hers, so I bought a second 3" 65 for myself. These things tend to multiply...
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Old June 29, 2011, 10:56 PM   #24
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The more I hear about this revolver the more I want it. What do you guys think for ammo though honestly for 357 someone was saying stay above 140gr. Could I shoot full house 357 out of it every once in a while you think?
If you want to shoot 125gr .357s much, I would at least step up to something like the model 581. It's an L frame and will handle those loads better.
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Old June 29, 2011, 11:11 PM   #25
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I'd go a step further, and say if you want to shoot full-house 125gr .357, you want a longer barrel, not a 3" (or 2.5") anything.

That is, unless you just want a big fireball and a lot of noise. If that's the ticket, then the occasional 125 won't hurt a Model 13.
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