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Old June 1, 2011, 11:18 PM   #1
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Titegroup 223

I loaded up some 223 rounds for test using the data on imrs site for titegroup. Shot through my sig 556. Its a fun round but it does not cycle the bolt. Its a fun round if u want to turn ur ar into a bolt. They say it moves at 1040 or so with a 55gr bullet, so will still do damage if used on small game

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Old June 2, 2011, 07:10 AM   #2
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Titegroup is made by Hogdon, not IMR. Do you mean Trail Boss maybe?
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Old June 2, 2011, 09:28 AM   #3
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There is a load for each titegroup and trail boss.

the load for titegroup is 3.1 gr the pressure is ONLY 4000 CUP that is not even close to the pressure of a load of varget that produces 51,700 PSI.

That is why it is not cycling the bolt. Sounds like these are subsonic loads for use with a suppressor.
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Old June 2, 2011, 02:21 PM   #4
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Hogdon. Imr hogdon and Winchester power are all made by the same company, hence the load data page is the same for all on their sites. I know why it doesn't cycle the bolt. I posted a while back asking about this round and was told it was a subsonic round and that no one has tried it. Its a fun little round if u want to make some up for training for clearing a round by mixing it in with other rounds.

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Old June 2, 2011, 04:58 PM   #5
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Just to clarify Hodgdon, IMR and Winchester powders are not made by the same company. Hodgdon doesn't manufacture any powders, they only package and distribute them. Their powders are manufactured all over the world by different companies.

The reason your TG load will not cycle the action has little to do with the subsonic speed of the bullet, and more to do with the amount of gas generated by the Uber fast powder TG. TG burns so fast that it produces very little gas in the barrel, this gas is needed to enter the gas port in the barrel and cycle the action. No gas, no action.
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Old June 2, 2011, 10:06 PM   #6
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Then why do imr, hogdon and Winchester powder data are together. I know that's why it does not cycle. Hell its quieter than a 22lr

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Old June 3, 2011, 07:00 AM   #7
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Then why do imr, hogdon and Winchester powder data are together.
Because Hodgdon has purchased IMR and Winchester powders. They now own the distribution rights to IMR and Winchester powders.
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Old June 4, 2011, 06:16 PM   #8
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There's several instances where Titegroup with published loads has blew up 500 S&W Magnum revolvers. I'll never use the stuff.
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Old June 4, 2011, 07:49 PM   #9
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Well I've learned something, thanks for the info. I'll check out the data.
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