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Old May 30, 2011, 11:45 AM   #1
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If you could only have two powders for reloading

If you was forced to have just two powders for reloading, what would that be? I know they make a lot of different powders now for all kinds of different applications, but if you could only have two. My pick would be Universal and Unique. Those two cover more of what I reload for than any other. Are there any two that would be better. I'm thinking the SHTF type scenario is the reason for the question and I had to grab just two powders. Unique would take are of my pistols and Universal would take care of my shotguns. I could survive with that combination I think. Those two powder have been around for some time, before there were then number we have today. So which two did people use way back there?
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Old May 30, 2011, 12:05 PM   #2
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I keep 4064 for my rifles, 223,308 &30-06 Bullseye for my pistols, .38,.357 & .45ACP
Pretty simple for me.
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Old May 30, 2011, 12:10 PM   #3
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Since my go-to guns are .44 magnum (20'' carbine and Super Blackhawk) I'd grab 2 lbs. of Unque.
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Old May 30, 2011, 01:45 PM   #4
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Unique and Unique or Unique and RL15
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Old May 30, 2011, 01:59 PM   #5
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I have narrowed down to H110 pistol and H414 rifle.
But, I cheat.
Not really reloading but black powder for most of my shooting.
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Old May 30, 2011, 02:07 PM   #6
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IMR4064 for 22/250, 307, 308, 30/06, 30/30, while not optimum for the 270 or 280 it can be used in a pinch, W231 is my choice for 45ACP! William
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Old May 30, 2011, 02:44 PM   #7
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Unique would be perfect except for the poor metering I get from it, so probably Bullseye for handguns. I haven't actually tried Bullseye yet (still using W231 and Unique/Universal), but all of my recent research indicates Bullseye is a good powder for almost anything. It won't get top velocities in some cartridges but it appears to be excellent to good in nearly everything I have: .38 Special, 9x18 Mak, 9mm Luger, .40S&W, .45ACP. The same can be said for W231.

For rifle I could get by with any one of the mid-range powders such as H4895, Varget, TAC since I mainly load for .223, .308 and M1 Garand .30-06. H4895 would be less optimal but still useful for .30-30 and 6.5x55.

The only cartridge of mine that would be left out is .30 Carbine which needs a magnum handgun powder like W296, AA9, or 2400.

In the real world, I like to use a few powders to cover the entire spectrum from W231 to Power Pistol to W296. Rifle powders I use are pretty much in the IMR3031 to H4350 range. But it is nice to have extra stocks of those "one only powders" like Unique or H4895 to be able to cover new situations or cartridges until you can fine an optimal powder, or in case you run out of your favorite special powder.
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Old May 30, 2011, 02:46 PM   #8
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W231 for pistols and H4895 for rifles.
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Old May 30, 2011, 04:40 PM   #9
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For the calibers I load most it would be WST for pistol and H335 for rifle.
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Old May 30, 2011, 04:50 PM   #10
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Varget and Titegroup
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Old May 30, 2011, 05:41 PM   #11
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I was going to say Power Pistol and 2400, but I could probably take Universal in place of Power Pistol and have a slightly better range of use.

I'm a handgun guy... so I can get by without any of the really fast burning powders, but I need a good medium and I need a good slow, so Universal and 2400 would keep me covered.
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Old May 30, 2011, 05:44 PM   #12
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Promo/Red Dot and IMR4895
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Old May 30, 2011, 06:58 PM   #13
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Since I just reload for rifles I would choose Tac and IMR-4895.
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Old May 30, 2011, 06:58 PM   #14
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two from my twenty-something; hmmmm......

HANDGUN ONLY:

Alliant Power Pistol and Winchester 296 (my older lots, please).
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Old May 30, 2011, 07:28 PM   #15
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I wonder why we have these hypothetical "if you only had....." things. We do have more choices, why not use the proper ones?
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Old May 30, 2011, 07:31 PM   #16
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IMR 4350/H4350 and RE-22.
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Old May 30, 2011, 07:41 PM   #17
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Nothing hypothetical about it. I'm looking for the fewest powders and already there is one that I had not considered. Thank you very much.
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Old May 30, 2011, 08:02 PM   #18
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Larry, I had a 5 gallon bucket of part cans of rifle & pistol powder, which an older brother had given me. I thought it as great when I received them, but I ran myself nuts digging up data, trying loads and adjusting sights or scopes.

I had kept running notes on what gave good accuracy and velocity. I hadn't worked extensively with either of them prior to the 'powder windfall' but those are the two that rose to the top of the heap. I understand your quest- I am very happy to stock only those two main powders. A can of W296 loads all the heavy .45 Colt I'll shoot for a long time because those are solely hunting loads.
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Old May 30, 2011, 08:27 PM   #19
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Bullseye and 4895.
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Old May 30, 2011, 08:51 PM   #20
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I also would choose W231 for pistols and H4895 for rifles if I could ONLY have 2. However I use mostly Titegroup for my handgun loads because you don't need much per round. W231 is much better for BOTH plinking and magnum loads, where Titegroup isn't so good for magnum loads with heavy bullets.
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Old May 30, 2011, 09:00 PM   #21
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When you load from 5.56 to 45-90, add in .38 target loads to 45 Colt hunting loads then throw in a c&b revolver and a Hawken style caplock with .45 and .54 cal barrels the idea of only two powders is a bit of a stretch. Didn't even consider shotguns. Oops!
If I check the shelf and find less than a dozen powders I figure I'm out of something. If I had to do it I'd have one safe dedicated to safe queens. I haven't been lucky enough to find two cartridges that I load that like the same powder. Come to think of it, I have two 30-06's that can't seem to agree on one powder.
In theory I could possibly do all my smokeless loading with Unique and one of the 4350's. Glad I don't have to.
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Old May 30, 2011, 09:19 PM   #22
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That's a tough one.

I suppose, thought, that I'd have to go WW 231 and WW 296.

I'd hate to give up my Trail Boss, though.
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Old May 30, 2011, 09:30 PM   #23
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Pistol - Herco
Rifle - H4895

Just my preferences in conjunction with calibers I like to reload
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Old May 30, 2011, 09:38 PM   #24
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I started reloading this year so I am relatively new. I actually only have two powders that I load with. They are H-335 and Power Pistol. I am loading 30-06, 223, 40, and 45. I think I may soon need a different powder for 30-06 and maybe 45. How do you guys keep tract of what powder was last in the measure if you don't want to empty it after every time in the loading room? This currently isn't a problem for me since I only load two and they both look different.
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Old May 30, 2011, 09:44 PM   #25
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