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Old October 13, 1999, 10:37 PM   #1
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I believe S&W referred to the fixed sight Mod 58 as the .41 Magnum Military and Police, and the card in the factory box so said.

A friend believes that only fixed sight K frames are properly called M&P's.

My reference literature is unavailable, I can't find the factory box, and the question is beginning to bug me. Anyone have an old Gun Digest or Shooter's Bible or other info?
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Old October 14, 1999, 12:47 AM   #2
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Roy Jinks' History of Smith & Wesson uses the designation 'Model 58 .41 Magnum Military & Police'. Given that Jinks is the company historian, I'd say that is pretty definitive.
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Old October 14, 1999, 11:50 AM   #3
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Thanks a LOT. Was pretty sure, but there was that niggling little doubt. Rusty
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Old October 14, 1999, 02:07 PM   #4
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Since S&W coined the term M&P, I guess it applies to whatever they say it does. But I see your friend's point; for years the M&P meant a .38 caliber, fixed sight medium frame revolver. It's hard to break old habits.

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Old October 14, 1999, 03:12 PM   #5
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I agree, wasn't Military and Police the name of the 1899 frame ( now K frame ) w/ fixed sights thru a bunch of variations until S&W began numbering instead of naming?

But, I still remember ( I think ) the white instructions that came in the box reading "Military & Police".
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Old October 17, 1999, 08:56 PM   #6
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"Model-.41 Mag cal., M&P,fixed sights,4 in. barrel, blue of nickel finish.Disc" from the Blue Book of Gun Values by S.P.Fjestad
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