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Old August 26, 2006, 01:33 PM   #1
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Sig 229 vs. H&K USP Compact

My friend is wanting to buy a good pistol .40. Which one is better?
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Old August 26, 2006, 01:40 PM   #2
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I own both, I like the Sig better.

Neither is a bad choice. I like the decocker on the sig best, the lack of a safety, and that it has a hammer that is not 'bobbed'.

I AD'd my HK by thumbing down that damned short hammer.
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Old August 26, 2006, 01:43 PM   #3
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The Sig is more pleasant to hold and has a better trigger pull. It is more accurate from sandbags. The H&K will likely outlast the Sig, however.
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Old August 26, 2006, 01:43 PM   #4
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Those are both excellent choices, so whichever fits him best. Personally, I favor the HK.
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Old August 26, 2006, 02:14 PM   #5
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I was in the exact same positon beggining of the year. I went with the HK. The reason was the safety. They both shot well. The trigger on the HK takes time getting used to. The Sig actually fit my hand better but like I said the safety was a big issue for me. I've got over 2000rds through it with out missing a beat.
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Old August 26, 2006, 02:40 PM   #6
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What do you need that safety for?
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Old August 26, 2006, 06:18 PM   #7
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Both are winners,

Suggest he buy the one that he feels most comfortable with and not worry about it.

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Old August 26, 2006, 07:42 PM   #8
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+1 for Swamp Yankee. I totally agree. I own the HK, but I think the choice between the two is a personal preference.
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Old August 26, 2006, 09:18 PM   #9
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ok now someone has told him that GLOCK's are better than Sig's and H&K's. Opinions please. Thanks
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Old August 26, 2006, 10:15 PM   #10
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They are not better, just different.
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Old August 26, 2006, 11:02 PM   #11
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They are all good, even Glocks. And I in no way think an HK will outlast a Sig. I rented a USP 9mm and liked it. But I found some dislikes. It is way too wide for concealed carry, the grip checkering is too sharp, the grip feels too thick, the conrtols feel a little cheap, and the mag wiggled when loaded and in the gun.

I then rented a Sig 226 in 9mm. What I thought about it was the grip was extremely comfortable, the controls were very solid, the fit was better, it was thinner, and it was by far the most accurate centerfire handgun I've ever fired. I now have a Sig 220 and will likely be buying a 40 cal 239 next.
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Old August 26, 2006, 11:18 PM   #12
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no way think an HK will outlast a Sig
The Sig aluminum frame will crack after 30-50K rounds. The HK will last longer.
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Old August 27, 2006, 10:44 AM   #13
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I just shot an HK yesterday for the first time, indeed a great gun but I didnt like hammer, or the way it felt. I prefer my Sig....
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Old August 27, 2006, 11:08 AM   #14
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He may want to try the HK P2000 with the LEM trigger, or the 229 with the DAK. Though Sigs are nice, I seem to always find something that feels better - in this case the HK.
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Old August 27, 2006, 02:52 PM   #15
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sig, sig sig.. hey did i say sig yet?
if not get the sig.
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Old August 27, 2006, 05:45 PM   #16
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Sig for shooting, USP for carry

I own both the Sig P229 and the USP 40c in .40 caliber. They are both good, but I find the Sig better for shooting at the range (heavier gun with better trigger), and the USP better for carry, as it is about 7 ounces lighter weight than the Sig.

The physical dimensions of both are very similar, however. I have holsters for one or the other, and both guns fit well in any of the holsters. The supposed "bulkiness" of the USP is a fable - the Sig is every bit as big dimensionally, and heavier besides. Both guns are very reliable and accurate. I think it comes down to personal preference which you like best.
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Old August 27, 2006, 06:43 PM   #17
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Do you prefer metal or plastic? Honestly, the SIG is the better option IMO---unless you were looking at a P7M10
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Old August 28, 2006, 01:16 PM   #18
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If you do a search this is a weekly thread on just about every gun board I've ever visited.
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Old August 28, 2006, 10:42 PM   #19
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Have both and both are excellent choices. Either would serve you well. If you want DA/SA the Sig has the better trigger. The H&K offers a cocked and locked option. The Sig DAK and H&K LEM both work great. The Sig is easier to get parts for. The H&K is lighter. Just whichever fits your hand and your tastes better.Both are stone cold reliable and accurate as you can shoot them.
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Old August 28, 2006, 11:03 PM   #20
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The USP, IMHO, is a very slightly better gun than the SIG. I used to feel they were equal, but I have been impressed by the, IME, more consistant quality of HK products.
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Old August 29, 2006, 08:32 AM   #21
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I have used both, but I bought the HK for the weight. I think perfromance-wise they're about equal, but with the lighter weight, I find the HK much easier to carry, and that's what's important. Also, I think that the HK's reliability is world-renowned, and that was important to me too. I think SIGs are great guns, and that will probably be my next purchase, but I'll still carry the HK USP everyday.
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Old August 29, 2006, 09:10 AM   #22
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Tough Call

I own both a P 2000 lem in .40 and Sig 229 DA/SA in .357 sig. Both guns are fun to shoot and pretty comfortable in my hands. If you friend is going for DA/SA I would say the Sig. I have shoot the USP in DA/SA and it feels sloppy. The Sig feels much tighter as far as the action goes.

As others have said have him try both out and see which one feels better. Ideally get the opportunity to go to a shooting range and give it a try.
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Old August 29, 2006, 02:18 PM   #23
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The Sig aluminum frame will crack after 30-50K rounds. The HK will last longer.
Have you actually seen this happen or just read it on the net? 30-50K is a lot of shooting........
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Old August 29, 2006, 02:29 PM   #24
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I'd wait for the HK45 compact .
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Old August 31, 2006, 05:56 PM   #25
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Dead set on those choices? What about a Springfield XD? Another polymer pistol that is very tough, relatively affordable and has good ergonomics. Plus it has a lifetime warranty.

I have the XD 45 ACP in the 4" Service size. Very cool pistol.

Just my $.02
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