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Old December 9, 2013, 12:41 PM   #676
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Do you know if Illinois has any plan for reciprocity with their neighbors, like Iowa?
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Seams like once we the people give what, at the time, seams like a reasonable inch and "they" take the unreasonable mile we can only get that mile back one inch at a time.

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Old December 9, 2013, 02:41 PM   #677
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Right now there is no reciprocity as far as carrying. For the IL 16 hour training requirement, they do offer up to 4 hours of credit for "training" taken that lead to a CC license from some other states. But, they do not accept the other states CC license only as proof of the training, the training certificate or signed/stamped application in cases such as Utah stating training was taken in the other state is required to receive the credit. For instance, I have a valid FL CC, but could not get the 4 extra hours of credit because I got the FL CC because I'm a veteran, I did not take a CC class. Currently, the absolute minimum training requirement to receive an IL CC is 4 hours; that's if you have 8 veterans credit hours by showing your DD-214 and 4 additional hours of training such as NRA pistol courses or another states CC class.
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Old December 9, 2013, 02:46 PM   #678
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Thanks Carry. I wish we could just treat CC permits like a drivers license, it is a pain to keep up with all the differences of all the states I travel in.

Guess because Illinois wanted to ban carry in the first place I can probably not look forward to them recognizing Iowa. But on the bright side Iowa will recognize yours and all other states permits.
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Old December 9, 2013, 03:00 PM   #679
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IL does offer non-resident permits ($350 I believe), but no reciprocity to get it is allowed, and the training requirement from an IL instructor still stands.
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Old January 7, 2014, 02:11 PM   #680
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IL Permit Applications now being accepted!

Considering this is a new chapter in this saga for IL... perhaps this post should actually be the start of a new thread, up to the mods.

Don't hate me for linking Breitbart... it has the most information from all the links I found talking about the numbers:
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governm...plication-Site


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4,525 individuals signed up on Sunday alone for their firearms permits, when the State Police first opened the process to all concealed carry applicants.

Illinois State Police spokeswoman Monique Bond said that number is included in Sunday’s total of more than 11,000 people who have signed up because of an early application process that began December 18 and was open to only firearm instructors. Officials told the Sun-Times they expect 350,000 to 400,000 people (about 1,000 per day) will sign up for conceal carry firearm permits this year.
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Old January 7, 2014, 03:35 PM   #681
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Wow, $150 for residents and $300 for non-residents.

Let's see (350,000x150) that's about $50-60 million dollars...wow.

That's a lot of money to exercise a 'right' with no other option (open carry).

Is that the most expensive in the US? I know Florida used to be over $100.

How long before the excessive fees are challenged?
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Old January 7, 2014, 03:51 PM   #682
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Wow, $150 for residents... That's a lot of money to exercise a 'right' with no other option (open carry)... Is that the most expensive in the US?
The standard fee in "gun-friendly" Texas is $140, although there are indigent and senior discounts, and a variety of other discounts for LE/military/etc. Remember that TX isn't an open-carry state either.

http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/RSD/CHL...eeSchedule.pdf

Does IL have an indigent discount?

(I don't intend to start a thread hijack, but TX has generally high fees for non-compulsory gov't services and permits, due to a culture of low state-government spending.)
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Old January 7, 2014, 04:04 PM   #683
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Be aware that Illinois is a virtual minefield of traps for the carrier. You can be legal in one block, illegal in the next due to school proximity, 'safe zones', (which means that only bangers can carry there), etc.
Their set of restrictions reads like a book of lawyerese that I believe will even trip lawyers. I'll continue to avoid that state for now.
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Old January 7, 2014, 06:02 PM   #684
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Tinner, its not that restrictive. Being near a school, walking by a school, etc is permited by a licensed concealed carrier; just don't tread onto the school property. I've taken the class, read and have a copy of the law and IL State police interpretations, and had the chance to question and answer with the IL State Police and a City of Chicago Police Officer on these issues. Parking lots are safe zones for carriers having to do business in restricted areas except in a few isolated instances. While the new IL law is more restrictive than some states, its a start....and its not the worse either. Lets give it a chance and move for better days. Rumors will not help our cause.
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Old January 8, 2014, 09:21 AM   #685
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The ban on carry on public transit is the single biggest "gotcha" and is clearly set up to limit carrying among those too poor to own a car.
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Old January 8, 2014, 05:57 PM   #686
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Be aware that Illinois is a virtual minefield of traps for the carrier. You can be legal in one block, illegal in the next due to school proximity, 'safe zones', (which means that only bangers can carry there), etc.
Their set of restrictions reads like a book of lawyerese that I believe will even trip lawyers. I'll continue to avoid that state for now.
Sir, you really have no idea what you are talking about. The law is not perfect but it is not as bad you claim it to be. The “safe zones” you are speaking of do not apply to someone that is “legally” carrying. Please read the law before you post about it.


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The ban on carry on public transit is the single biggest "gotcha" and is clearly set up to limit carrying among those too poor to own a car.
That is correct. The sad part is that this will only affect a portion of the population (lower income) that needs to be able to carry. If you ride a train or bus in Chicago, your chances of being victimized are drastically increased IMO. I believe this is going to be one of the fist things that we try to fix or correct come the new legislative session.
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