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Old April 29, 2011, 02:20 PM   #1
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what powder are you all using for 40S&W

i havent ever loaded the 40 used to load for 9mm and 45LC and always used Win 231 on the 9mm and Trailboss for the 45LC for cowboy action but never loaded the 40S&W...was going to see what you all used for a good clean powder
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Old April 29, 2011, 02:27 PM   #2
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I shoot a LOT of cast ( I cast for almost everything I own) and therefore have lots of Red Dot on hand. 4gr. to 4.4gr. Red Dot runs very well in jacketed 180gr and cast 175gr respectively. Clean, snappy, reliable. There are plenty of other powders, but I like to keep variety down and quantity high.
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Old April 29, 2011, 02:51 PM   #3
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155 grain hard cast lead round nose over Titegroup
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Old April 29, 2011, 03:06 PM   #4
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Hodgdon TiteGroup - with a FMJ 180gr Montana Gold bullet ...
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Old April 29, 2011, 03:09 PM   #5
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Glock 22
170 grain cast LSWC from Missouri Bullet.
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Winchester WSP primer.

Best combination I've ever shot in .40

Please spare me the Glock barrel / lead bullet myth. It's my gun.

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Old April 29, 2011, 03:13 PM   #6
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Old April 29, 2011, 03:33 PM   #7
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Please spare me the Glock barrel / lead bullet myth. It's my gun.
Yep hard cast should not be an issue. My G 36 functions great on my 230 gr. lead hard cast loads as well as my G 26 on my 125 gr. lead hard cast loads.
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Old April 29, 2011, 03:44 PM   #8
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155gn and 175gn L-SWC
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Old April 29, 2011, 03:48 PM   #9
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Please spare me the Glock barrel / lead bullet myth. It's my gun.
Ok fellas can you all elaborate on this?
i used to do some cowboy action shooing back a few years ago and know about Missouri bullet Co...used to buy 45LC from them...then started casting my own .38 specials when i went to them...but i always thought shooting a lead cast out of a semi was a NO NO...so please fellas elaborate for me....at $34 per 500 vs the $60 for 500 jacketed bullets i was planning on shooting i can shoot way more...so please elaborate on this...is it ok as long as the barrel is cleaned?
just mainly target loads is all im wanting to shoot a lot of...Carry rounds are a little diffrent but for the cost of them im not punching paper with them
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Old April 29, 2011, 03:59 PM   #10
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Glocks don't have conventional rifling (lands and grooves) the whole bore is shaped like a stop-sign (sort of) with a twist to it. If it gets leaded badly, there's no place for the lead to go; the bore just gets restricted and that raises the pressure.

Some Glock barrels also have chambers that are cut deeply at the feed ramps (for better feeding reliability, I guess) and so the brass is not supported there. 9mm and .40S&W operate at high pressures already. Drive the pressure up with lead fouling and bad things can happen.

There's several solutions: Use jacketed bullets, replace the barrel with one that has a fully supported chamber or conventional rifling, clean the bore frequently to remove lead build-up, or use lead bullets that don't lead.

I don't know if Glock 9mm's still have the problem. It's been a long time since I picked up a piece of 9mm brass that looked like a pregnant guppy. Most of the stories you hear now about Glocks blowing up are .40S&W's.

I have a CZ pistol with the same polygonal rifling as a Glock and it's a joy to clean -- I shoot mostly cast lead bullets in it and it never leads at all.

ETA: I don't reload .40 yet, but from loading other cartridges I'd say Bullseye, Unique, and WSF are good candidates. Red Dot and Promo will give you the best accuracy for light target loads but will peak before you get to service-load levels. Power Pistol for max loads.
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Old April 29, 2011, 04:01 PM   #11
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AA#5 has given me good results. Clean burning & accurate. I use mostly 180 gr cast FWIW.
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Old April 29, 2011, 07:26 PM   #12
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I use Unique, AA #5, and some Titegroup. #5 with lead, Unique with MG hollowpoints, and Titegroup for lead reduced stuff.
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Old April 29, 2011, 07:55 PM   #13
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AA #5 with a Berry's 180 grain hollow point.
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Old April 29, 2011, 09:09 PM   #14
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WSF and AA #5 with 165fp Berry's,Power Pistol,SR4756 and even Auto Comp for heavier loads
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Old April 29, 2011, 09:26 PM   #15
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Unique with 180 grain berrys plated flat nose
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Old April 29, 2011, 10:49 PM   #16
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Ive used Unique, HS 6 , and ramshot silhouette ....LOUD
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Old April 29, 2011, 11:00 PM   #17
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Bullseye

Bullseye for 180 gr cast bullet target loads ~1000 fps.

When using 5 gr of Bullseye you can load 28 50 round boxes with one pound of powder.
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Old April 29, 2011, 11:11 PM   #18
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Old April 29, 2011, 11:22 PM   #19
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Unique or Bullseye.
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Old April 30, 2011, 12:20 AM   #20
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Power Pistol is my first choice, but Unique is also pretty good in the 40.
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Old April 30, 2011, 01:29 AM   #21
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Keep it simple, I use W-231 for 40 S&W, best, I don't know but it works every time I pull the trigger and I do get 2 inch groups, but then I do use Nosler 135 grain HP bullets.


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Old April 30, 2011, 06:35 AM   #22
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I've been using clays with a berry's bullet.
I've also used titegroup.
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Old May 1, 2011, 08:47 AM   #23
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tested vs used

I've tested AA2, AA2 Imp, AA5, AA9, HS6, HS7, 700X, 800X, Bullseye, Unique, Universal, Longshot, W231, 2400, 3N37, N350, WAP, Power Pistol, Blue Dot, WSL, Nitro 100.

Mild target-type ammo gets Bullseye; everything else gets 3N37, WAP, or Power Pistol.
Cop-ammo got WAP and Power Pistol; personal defense loads got 3N37.

Nowadays if I load 40 for myself I use Bullseye for Minor PF ammo for USPSA.
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Old May 1, 2011, 11:31 AM   #24
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800X 200 gr for most power
Power Pistol 200 gr for easy metering
3N37 200 gr for less flash.
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Old May 2, 2011, 07:07 AM   #25
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Unique or Bullseye.
I prefer Unique, but also worked up a load using Bullseye. I am also thinking of working up a load using Titegroup.
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