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Old May 27, 2011, 09:42 AM   #1
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Hornady Leverevolution .44 Magnum issue in Revolver

Having a problem with the cylinder rotating when loaded with Hornady leverevolution ammo, and back of the casings are being scratched. Made a video about the issue here:

http://youtu.be/aai1-oeGKmk
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Old May 27, 2011, 10:12 AM   #2
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Seems like they're too long for your revolver's cylinder.
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Old May 27, 2011, 10:17 AM   #3
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aren't the case trim lengths shorter for those bullets than other bullets? did you check that?

edit: i think you may have bought them new..thought i was in the reloading section of this forum...sorry...didn't check the video first like i should have...but yeah...they seem too long anyway
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Old May 27, 2011, 11:20 AM   #4
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My guess would be an ammo issue w/a gun having min/tight headspace. Did you try all the cartridges in the box? is it limited to the same chamber each time or same cartridge?

I handload myself but have had issues w/hornady brass having an occasional thicker rim/head that was detected by not easily slid into the shell holder but is rare. Me think I had one like issue w/starline brass also.

As I'm writing this, I just noticed its a Taurus and vaguely remember my bro having an issue w/his Tracker. IIRC it had something to do w/a screw loosening relative to his cylindr/crane assy. I'll make it a point to chk when I see him next week.

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Old May 27, 2011, 04:06 PM   #5
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That's a headspacing issue. Either the rims are too thick or you don't have enough gap at the rear of the cylinder. If it's only happening to one chamber, the cylinder/extractor might not be true.
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Old May 27, 2011, 09:16 PM   #6
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The leverevolution has a plastic tip correct. I believe the plastic tips make the overall length longer than the cylinder on your revolver. Check to see if the tip of the bullet is sticking out of the front of the cylinder. The tips are designed for lever action rifles. I noticed that the 200 gr was less problematic than the 225 gr. The 225 gr bullets are longer than the 200gr.
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Old May 27, 2011, 09:26 PM   #7
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Taurus
I have used them in my Ruger Super Blackhawk with no problem. The only problem I have with the levervolution bullets that I hand loaded was that they are to long for a Ruger 44/77 carbine magazine.
With my past problems with the small number of Taurus's that I have owned my bet would be on the Taurus.
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Old May 28, 2011, 10:28 AM   #8
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Length

Like it says in the video the bullet tips are still well within the cylinder, nothing is sticking out. Also I measured the thickness of the case rims with no detectable difference between the problematic FTX and less problematic XTP.
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Old May 28, 2011, 11:32 AM   #9
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44 mag
Neck diameter .457 in (11.6 mm)
Base diameter .457 in (11.6 mm)
Rim diameter .514 in (13.1 mm)
Rim thickness .060 in (1.5 mm)
Case length 1.285 in (32.6 mm)
Overall length 1.61 in (41 mm)
http://www.handloads.com/articles/cartridge.htm

You need to measure Rim thickness and see if they are in spec.
Also take a feeler gage and measure the opening at the back of the gun.
I had a 44 special Taurus that the front of the cylinder was not cut straight and made contact with the barrel. A gun smith opened the gap by grinding off the end of the barrel. This might be the problem with the rear of your cylinder.
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Old May 30, 2011, 03:06 PM   #10
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I shoot those exact rounds out of my Super Red Hawk all the time. Not one hang-up, not one glitch. VERY fun to shoot You may have a "bad batch" of ammo or a problem with your firearm . But I went through my 10th box of them as of last Wednesday...Noth'n but fun!
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Old May 30, 2011, 04:36 PM   #11
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Someone gave me a box of them, and I shot them through my Bisley Blackhawk with no issues.

They were long in the cylinder, but they cleared.

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Old May 30, 2011, 06:45 PM   #12
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I just tried to shoot two boxes of these through my .44 and had the same problem, but not with all the rounds, just one or two. In addition, compared these, 225 gr and Cor-Bon in 320 and the 225's grew more in OAL then the Cor-Bons.
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Old May 31, 2011, 12:23 PM   #13
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Well if memory serves me correctly. This ammo is/was made for Lever action rifles. Not revolvers.
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Old May 31, 2011, 07:39 PM   #14
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Well if memory serves me correctly. This ammo is/was made for Lever action rifles. Not revolvers.

That is true only because the soft plastic tip allows you to can carry a ballistic tipped bullet (pointed) in a tube magazine safely without having the worry about setting off a round in the tube caused from the tip hitting the next round. The tips are soft enough.
That’s also why you don’t see spire point bullets in 30/30
Other than that they are loaded to hand gun specs and will work well in both.
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