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Old September 6, 2000, 10:52 AM   #1
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I am wondering how many people carry another weapon besides the ones mentioned above. If you do what are they, and more importantly can you access them as fast or faster than your handgun?

I currently carry a Syderco Delica strongside rear pants pocket and plan to get another soon to carry weak side rear pants pocket so I will have one set up for rapid deployment with either hand.

I also practice and plan to use any items that I have in hand [day planner, groceries, etc] as distraction device/improvised weapon to buy time & distance if needed.
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Old September 6, 2000, 11:03 AM   #2
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persuader. Delica in front strong-side pocket.
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Old September 6, 2000, 02:22 PM   #3
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Rather custom cane. Me old enough for it to look proper.

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Old September 6, 2000, 02:46 PM   #4
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Cold Steel Voyager in my left pocket.

A rather nice selection of walking sticks for those times/places where the HK is disallowed.

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Old September 6, 2000, 02:51 PM   #5
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Like C.R. and Law Dog I carry/use a cane (out of necessity in my case).


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Old September 6, 2000, 06:26 PM   #6
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A. G. Russell one hander in the back pocket and at work a nice assortment of screwdrivers, Kline plyers, and the ever trusty awl. Add to that a 2 lb hammer and the ever present F250 Ford van. I was recently involved in a police standoff and the most lethal thing I had on me was a phillips screwdriver. I had the good sense to get myself, a co-worker, and two civilians out of the line of fire and to cover. A clear mind and situational awareness are two of the best weapons you can carry.
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Old September 6, 2000, 07:25 PM   #7
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Since the job i have will not allow firearms on the property, I almost always have a Delica and on occasion when Im out and about Ill have an asp and obligatory 3 or 4 cell maglite....fubsy.
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Old September 7, 2000, 04:30 PM   #8
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Bob Lum Spyderco and a kubaton. If it counts I sometimes wear steel toes to work.

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Old September 9, 2000, 02:02 AM   #9
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Buck Odyssy in right front pocket and a 3 cell Mag-Light in front seat

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Old September 9, 2000, 12:28 PM   #10
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16" ASP in the truck - although if the F150 itself doesn't do the trick, I'm not sure what good the ASP would be.

When I'm out jogging, an A.G.Russell Sting IA worn crossdraw. My reasoning is I'm already pretty well warmed up, and when you add adrenaline I feel confident in my ability to "run faster scared than they can mad" should somebody decide they want my shoes or something. (Had a former "bad boy" tell me once the most important race you should be really good at is the 440 - that's about four city blocks, and just about everyone'll give up chasing you by then.) However, no way am I going to outrun a dog no matter what, so the Sting gives me the option to "bite back." I don't feel comfortable with a firearm in this scenario, as in a "rough'n'tumble" with a dog in a residential neighborhood with lots of kids anything besides a "contact" shot could be risky. I may start carrying pepper spray while jogging, but haven't decided yet.

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Old September 9, 2000, 06:06 PM   #11
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Knives, ASP baton. My favorite knife where allowed, is a Cold Steel Safekeeper.

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Old September 10, 2000, 08:20 AM   #12
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mk86fcc,

A. G. Russell Sting is one of my favorite knives. I read a book as a kid where the hero had one, and I've always had a soft spot for it.

However, in most jurisdictions (I am not familiar with the laws in FL), the Sting will be classified as a dirk/dagger and be highly illegal to carry.

A good folder (check out the REKAT SIFU if local law allows a folder of this size to be carried) might be a better way to go. Or a single edge fixed blade.

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Old September 10, 2000, 10:10 AM   #13
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Like many others I have started carrying a tactical folding knife. My current favorite is a CRKT M-16-12Z. It's a 3" Tanto blade and a very slick little piece of work.

And like a few others, a cane is becoming a part of my daily wear. In my cae, a bad knee. I am looking for a good self-defense cane (www.canemasters.com) for all round use.

I also consider anything I may be carrying as a potential weapon or distraction. A few times when faced with uncertain situations, I have grabbed and carried a cup of coffee. Very innocent but an excellent diversion if charged by someone...hot coffee in the face while I begin to employ another item. Or run if appropriate.

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Old September 10, 2000, 07:47 PM   #14
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Gerber EZ Out clipped to right pocket. Goes with me everywhere, even places that say no concealed weapons. I've had cops hassle me before and they didn't even care that I had it because everyone in the free world has some type of knife and if they arrested everyone that had them they'd be up to their neck's in paperwork all the time. I can get to it MUCH faster than any carry gun and I have a good idea how to use it effectively, courtesy of martial arts training =) Sometimes I keep a katana in the trunk...mostly for show though.
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Old September 11, 2000, 01:53 AM   #15
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I carry a german calvery saber on my horse for nasty horse ankle biting dogs where its not PC to be bouncing 115 gr 9mm rounds off the road. The back side tends to make them very polite after it connects with the side of the head in most cases. Have yet to have one not get the hint. It may sound mean but you do not want to see what a horse that is used to dogs will do to a stupid biter.
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Old September 11, 2000, 09:00 AM   #16
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by TaxPhd:
mk86fcc,

A. G. Russell Sting is one of my favorite knives. I read a book as a kid where the hero had one, and I've always had a soft spot for it.("The Survivalist" perhaps? Jerry Ahern's writing was probably responsible for sparking the interests of a lot of folks in A.G.Russell, Detonics, and a host of other previously little known brands.)

However, in most jurisdictions (I am not familiar with the laws in FL), the Sting will be classified as a dirk/dagger and be highly illegal to carry. (I carry the 3-3/8" version, which brings it under the limit for most states, but in FL it's irrelevant, since our CCW license is for any weapon, not just firearms.)

A good folder (check out the REKAT SIFU if local law allows a folder of this size to be carried) might be a better way to go. Or a single edge fixed blade.(Having a firm grasp of my limitations, I'll stick with the double-edge. Sure as I'm sittin' here, I'd rake the spine of the blade across the dog's shoulder and wonder why it had no effect...)

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Old September 11, 2000, 09:32 AM   #17
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mk86fcc,

You're right, it was The Survivalist! I can see it now, John Rourke with his CAR-15, dual Detonics in an Alessi double shoulder holster, an a Styer SSG rifle. Great reading for a 15 year old kid!

I wish that Georgia's CCW license was for any weapon. It's firearms only. Dirks and daggers (of any length) and knives "designed for offence or defence" are specifically excluded.

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Old September 11, 2000, 10:17 AM   #18
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>"Instructions for a successful gunfight: Front Sight, Press Trigger, repeat as necessary." - B. Braxton[/quote]

Prerequisite for a successful gunfight: "Have a gun." - Col. Cooper

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Old September 11, 2000, 02:15 PM   #19
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besides my folder and a "round eye" neck knife, i carry an asp baton (26in.) in my waist (appendix carry). i use the asp pepper gas dispenser which doubles as a kuboton. you can also use the asp pepper gas dispenser and your keys as a flail, whipping your keys into the teeth and gums, eyes, etc. of your new found training implement.

happy to pitch in.
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Old September 12, 2000, 05:35 PM   #20
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*&* Tactical folding knife in left boot (steel toes at that), *&* Special Ops in strong side (right) back pocket. 4 cell Mag Light in f-150 SuperCrew. Also a small black jack that if used properly hurts like a mother -
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Old September 13, 2000, 03:38 PM   #21
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Old September 14, 2000, 09:00 AM   #22
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by TaxPhd:
mk86fcc,

You're right, it was The Survivalist! I can see it now, John Rourke with his CAR-15, dual Detonics in an Alessi double shoulder holster, an a Styer SSG rifle. Great reading for a 15 year old kid!
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You forgot the 6" Colt Python and the approx 5 thousand rounds of ammo
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Old September 14, 2000, 10:18 AM   #23
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Glamdring:
You forgot the 6" Colt Python and the approx 5 thousand rounds of ammo [/quote]

It's easy to forget stuff like that since:
a) the series ended about 9-10 years ago, and;
b) JTR was a walking armory - it was hard to say from page to page what he might pull out of some heretofore unknown pocket/scabbard/sheath/musset bag...



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