Out Of Curiosity...

Single Six · April 18, 2011, 03:37 PM

I don't have any full-autos, but I do have a question, and this looks like the forum for it: If you were in the middle of a full-auto burst and suddenly got a squib load...would it be the mess that I imagine it would? Seems to me that it would happen before the shooter even realized it if he was on full auto, and the next rounds down the barrel would spell disaster. Right or wrong, and has anyone ever experienced this? Thanks, all.

Bartholomew Roberts · April 18, 2011, 05:58 PM

Typically a squib won't cycle the action, so it doesn't do much besides stop firing.

If you try to chamber another round and fire, then auto or semi-auto, you may get a nasty surprise unless the bullet didn't travel very far down the barrel and stops the next round from chambering as well.

chasep255 · April 18, 2011, 09:23 PM

When a squib occurs in an auto it generally won't cycle. Not to say this is always true. I wonder if it ever happens when people have mini guns.

Single Six · April 19, 2011, 03:07 AM

Good enough. Thanks, fellas.

David Hineline · April 19, 2011, 06:21 AM

It happens, mostly to people who same money on ammunition from cheap surplus places bought at gun shows.

Skans · April 19, 2011, 10:35 AM

I've only experienced one squib load that I can recall. It was in a Glock 17. The primer didn't have enough power to move the bullet down the barrel - it wouldn't chamber another round.

MrM4 · April 19, 2011, 12:22 PM

This what happens when you get a squib. While agree with Dave about ammo, this one was caused by Winchester White box from Walmart.

I have found that some Open bolt sub guns will cycle after a squib enough to load a 2nd round, its the round after the squib that causes problems....

Skans · April 19, 2011, 04:07 PM

OUCH!....that's ugly.

macsters · April 20, 2011, 01:24 AM

if there is enough power to cycle the action, there is generally enough to push the bullet out.

otherwise, if you have to manually cycle the action and you get an empty case come out when you do, i suggest you look through the action down the barrel to make sure you can see light. i have never had a squib load, but i still always check because of fear of situations like MrM4's above.

chasep255 · April 23, 2011, 06:23 PM

What if I have a stove pipe or something where it partially cycles. Could that indicate a squib. My 1911 james up every now and then.

David Hineline · April 23, 2011, 08:48 PM

Most likely your 1911 shooter does not have a tight grip on the weapon. If you are going to shoot weak ammo like Remingtion UMC then you might consider putting in a reduced power recoil spring. Remember to put a full power spring back in when you load up with proper combat defense loads.

You can order Wolf progressive spring pack from a place like Brownells and taylor your spring to the load you are shooting.

April 18, 2011, 03:37 PM	#1
Single Six Senior Member Join Date: January 31, 2010 Location: N.C. Posts: 1,522	Out Of Curiosity... I don't have any full-autos, but I do have a question, and this looks like the forum for it: If you were in the middle of a full-auto burst and suddenly got a squib load...would it be the mess that I imagine it would? Seems to me that it would happen before the shooter even realized it if he was on full auto, and the next rounds down the barrel would spell disaster. Right or wrong, and has anyone ever experienced this? Thanks, all.

April 18, 2011, 09:23 PM	#3
chasep255 Senior Member Join Date: December 21, 2009 Location: NJ :( Posts: 685	When a squib occurs in an auto it generally won't cycle. Not to say this is always true. I wonder if it ever happens when people have mini guns. __________________ I have mostly non-sporting firearms In NJ, technically speaking, ALL guns are illegal Also in my state there is such thing as a Class III BB gun :barf: Happy to say that despite the NJ AWB I still manage to make my guns look scary

April 19, 2011, 12:22 PM	#7
MrM4 Senior Member Join Date: June 27, 2008 Location: SOUTH DAKOTA Posts: 101	This what happens when you get a squib. While agree with Dave about ammo, this one was caused by Winchester White box from Walmart. I have found that some Open bolt sub guns will cycle after a squib enough to load a 2nd round, its the round after the squib that causes problems.... __________________ FUN GUN SHOOT South Dakota's Largest Machine Gun Shoot www.fungunshoot.com

April 23, 2011, 06:23 PM	#10
chasep255 Senior Member Join Date: December 21, 2009 Location: NJ :( Posts: 685	What if I have a stove pipe or something where it partially cycles. Could that indicate a squib. My 1911 james up every now and then. __________________ I have mostly non-sporting firearms In NJ, technically speaking, ALL guns are illegal Also in my state there is such thing as a Class III BB gun :barf: Happy to say that despite the NJ AWB I still manage to make my guns look scary

April 18, 2011, 05:58 PM	#2
Bartholomew Roberts Senior Member Join Date: June 13, 2000 Location: Texas and Oklahoma area Posts: 5,403	Typically a squib won't cycle the action, so it doesn't do much besides stop firing. If you try to chamber another round and fire, then auto or semi-auto, you may get a nasty surprise unless the bullet didn't travel very far down the barrel and stops the next round from chambering as well.

April 19, 2011, 03:07 AM	#4
Single Six Senior Member Join Date: January 31, 2010 Location: N.C. Posts: 1,522	Good enough. Thanks, fellas.

April 19, 2011, 06:21 AM	#5
David Hineline Senior Member Join Date: December 23, 1999 Location: South Sioux City, Nebraska Posts: 700	It happens, mostly to people who same money on ammunition from cheap surplus places bought at gun shows.

April 19, 2011, 10:35 AM	#6
Skans Senior Member Join Date: November 20, 2008 Posts: 6,362	I've only experienced one squib load that I can recall. It was in a Glock 17. The primer didn't have enough power to move the bullet down the barrel - it wouldn't chamber another round.

April 19, 2011, 04:07 PM	#8
Skans Senior Member Join Date: November 20, 2008 Posts: 6,362	OUCH!....that's ugly.

April 20, 2011, 01:24 AM	#9
macsters Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2011 Posts: 119	if there is enough power to cycle the action, there is generally enough to push the bullet out. otherwise, if you have to manually cycle the action and you get an empty case come out when you do, i suggest you look through the action down the barrel to make sure you can see light. i have never had a squib load, but i still always check because of fear of situations like MrM4's above.

April 23, 2011, 08:48 PM	#11
David Hineline Senior Member Join Date: December 23, 1999 Location: South Sioux City, Nebraska Posts: 700	Most likely your 1911 shooter does not have a tight grip on the weapon. If you are going to shoot weak ammo like Remingtion UMC then you might consider putting in a reduced power recoil spring. Remember to put a full power spring back in when you load up with proper combat defense loads. You can order Wolf progressive spring pack from a place like Brownells and taylor your spring to the load you are shooting.