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View Poll Results: Which one for winter carry?
Glock 33(.357 sig) 26 42.62%
Glock 29(10mm) 36 59.02%
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Old April 17, 2011, 06:37 PM   #1
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.357 sig or 10mm for winter carry

Which of these would you guys choose for wintertime carry? I've got firsthand experience with the latter (my 2nd gun purchase was a Glock 29 which I very stupidly let go in exchange for some .45 POC!) I now carry a G26 everyday, but I would like to get either a G33 or another G29 to carry in the winter months. Which one would you guys recommend? I'm pretty much dead-set on the 33, but given that I've owned the 29, I could go either way. I also need to get a larger pistol safe as my current one is gonna be too small for the type of collection I want to have at my disposal. So, gun safe recommendations are also welcome(sorry mods if I've posted this in the wrong forum). Thanks in advance!
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Old April 17, 2011, 08:49 PM   #2
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Winter's almost over!

Hah, winter is almost over, so you are planning way ahead!

That said, summer is coming and if hikes into the mountains and woods is your flavor, then that 10mm is more for the task.

But the .357 sig probably might be at the lower end of the task, and also more the size of your 26, being the small frame. I have the 29, and although it is roughly the size of my glock 19, it is thicker.
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Old April 17, 2011, 08:55 PM   #3
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Thanks for the reply!
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Old April 17, 2011, 08:58 PM   #4
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IMHO the sig really isn't that much of a step up from the better +p 9mm. I'd go with the 10
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Old April 17, 2011, 09:05 PM   #5
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Neither.

.45 ACP or .357.
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Old April 17, 2011, 09:08 PM   #6
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Thanks, mav! It looks like I'll be waiting a little while to purchase even after I've got enough money saved up! If I really pinch pennies, I could even buy both! That would be really cool, since then I'd have my choice of Glocks! Throw in my Bodyguard .38, plus maybe an LCR and I'd have a nice little arsenal!
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Old April 17, 2011, 09:29 PM   #7
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Maybe you are already aware that you can get conversion barrels for the 10mm glock 29 for both the sig .357 and the .40?
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Old April 17, 2011, 10:22 PM   #8
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The 10mm is a good round in all but. I would say the .357 SIG.
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Old April 17, 2011, 11:03 PM   #9
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Your 26 is fine for winter carry too. But if you're using "winter carry" as a rationalization for buying a fun new gun (I do that kind of thing all the time)........ then get the 10mm Glock 20. It's a bit of an over kill for SD, but if you ever find yourself in a stare-down with a 900 lb Grizzly, you'll win.
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Old April 17, 2011, 11:12 PM   #10
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If you swap your G26 for a G27 you can run 9mm & 357sig using aftermarket or Glock barrels.

Edit..
Oh, and the 357sig will be thinner, lighter and easier to carry than the wider 10mm.

Lastly, I'm not so sure the 10mm is really the right call for self defense;
Possibly too much penetration - very risky in the wrong environment.
Hard to find in areas and always expensive.
Availablity and price can conspire to make practice and training with your selected sd weapon difficult and rare.
It all combines to leave you very vulnerable to the prosecuting attorney on a bad day.

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Old April 17, 2011, 11:16 PM   #11
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Will the G33 take a full power 10mm load? Or is made for the weaker FBI load?

If so, it might as well be a .40 S&W
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Old April 17, 2011, 11:28 PM   #12
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^No.
The 357sig is basically a necked down .40, so its recoil is similar.
10mm (and 45acp) use Glocks wider frames.

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Old April 18, 2011, 01:58 AM   #13
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cold weather carry; calibers...

It's a close call but from the pistol choices, I'd give a slight edge to the powerful .357sig.
The 10mm would do well but I'd use a Glock 20 or 20C or maybe a S&W model 610.
Gun writer Duane Thomas wrote a great item years ago about some of the major flaws with the 10mm round(for duty or carry use). The feeding & cycle problems would make me want a Glock 33 first.
If I was still in the US northeast, I would carry a .44spl, a .45acp or maybe a .40/10mm in winter months. I'd use a med or large frame sidearm(4-5" barrel).
A well made LE .357sig round like the Ranger T, Corbon DPX, Doubletap Ammo or Speer Gold Dot JHP should have the KE or punch to go through winter clothing & feed well in a sub compact Glock pistol.

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Old April 18, 2011, 08:50 AM   #14
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I would say either would work. If I was you I would try to shoot both to decide which you personally like better.
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Old April 18, 2011, 09:37 AM   #15
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I think I'll go with both!

At some point this year, I'll be purchasing both calibers anyway, so I'll just do that and collect some more holsters for carrying. I think I'll buy the G33 first, so I can start collecting ammo and practicing with it. What would the difference in ballistics be between the G20&G29? I'm asking because I prefer the compact 29 over the full-size Glock 20 for everyday concealed carry, even in the wintertime. I know that I could just open carry as well, I'll definitely do that if I choose a full-size pistol. But I prefer to carry concealed, even out in the woods where I wouldn't have to worry as much about people's reactions to my being armed.I also like the idea of a 10mm revolver, as that gives me a revolver's dependability in a pistol caliber. I really should at least try .45 ACP, since I'm trying bigger calibers anyway, might as well go for the biggest and the best!
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Old April 18, 2011, 11:21 AM   #16
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What would the difference in ballistics be between the G20&G29?
it should be 50-75 fps but I've seen funny stuff happen when you start actually chronographing out of real guns.
I had 4" 45colt vaquero that would achieve more velocity than my 5.5" vaquero.
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Old April 18, 2011, 11:33 AM   #17
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I really should at least try .45 ACP, since I'm trying bigger calibers anyway, might as well go for the biggest and the best!
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I'd give a slight edge to the powerful .357sig.
To keep the stats even just looking them up to one major manufacturer noted for hot loads.

Over the .357 sig, smaller hole, not as much energy as the 10mm.
564 ME ft. lbs. according to the BB stats.

Over the .45 ACP, Bigger hole, but much lower velocity, and 10mm is more energy.


Looking up on Buffalo bore's website:
Their max load for the .45 acp is around 543 ME foot pounds
http://www.buffalobore.com/index.php...duct_list&c=12

and the 10mm is around 728 ME ft. lbs.
http://www.buffalobore.com/index.php...duct_list&c=24


Also, according to their stats, the velocity loss between the glock 29 and 20 averages to around only 90 feet per second.

Not a huge difference, and you could alway put in an aftermarket extended barrel to make up the difference if you want.
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Old April 18, 2011, 11:54 AM   #18
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357sig in the winter for penetration, then swap the barrels for 40sw and larger diameter in the summer
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Old April 18, 2011, 02:42 PM   #19
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No offense to those who favor it but I remain completely under whelmed by the 357 SIG cartridge. Seems to me you can do everything it does with the 38 Super and not have to bother with the bottle neck case...a real pain when reloading.

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Old April 18, 2011, 03:11 PM   #20
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Both will work, I vote for 10mm because I have a g29 myself
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Old April 18, 2011, 03:59 PM   #21
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another vote for the 357Sig
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Old April 18, 2011, 05:41 PM   #22
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I vote what I carry in the winter:



Although the knife has been upgraded:



BUG is a G39.
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Old April 18, 2011, 06:09 PM   #23
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I wouldn't buy a 357 SIG for any reason. Well, maybe if they were out of .45 GAPs or 5.7 Velo-Dogs.
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Old April 18, 2011, 06:16 PM   #24
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Depends on where you live!

10mm is a big round, and using that in a SD could be a judge ruling differently. I have heard about this. If you are in woods area and bears in your area then yes a 10mm is good. I do not know anything about the sig 357, all I know is a 357 mag
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Old April 18, 2011, 07:02 PM   #25
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Yep.. without a single doubt, and I cant really stress it enough, DO NOT carry a bear-exploding-man-shredding-super-all-killing round for self defense.
Carrying such a beast in the majority of the lower 48 is a Democrat Prosecutors wet dream of a guy who relishes the idea of killing someone instead of just protecting himself.
You WILL be presented as the "Magnum" carrying sociopath just waiting for the opportunity to blow someones spleen apart.

Be smart - carry what your local cops do - by doing so you can not be villified simply because of what you carry.

If you have any doubts just read of the many case examples out there that focus on the gun/ammo choosen.
Carry, but carry smart.
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