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Old March 1, 2010, 12:34 AM   #1
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RARE Colt Python .41 Magnum

RARE. I don't think that adequately describes this Colt. Up until 5 minutes ago I had no idea Colt ever made a .41 Magnum even as a prototype. Eighteen hours to go on gunbroker. I can't wait to see what it goes for. If only I were a rich man.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=158956053
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Old March 1, 2010, 12:49 AM   #2
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Up until 5 minutes ago I had no idea Colt ever made a .41 Magnum even as a prototype.


You aren't the only one, first time for me as well.
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Old March 1, 2010, 12:56 AM   #3
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There have been many threads about these, Iirc they are fakes.
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Old March 1, 2010, 01:03 AM   #4
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Yep, looks that way

41 Magnum Python?

I thought it was strange, that in all my life, as much as I read about firearms that I had not heard of it.
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Old March 1, 2010, 01:20 AM   #5
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Colt supposedly says that they made VERY limited runs of pythons in .256 Win. Mag., .41 Magnum, and .44 Special.

That said, I would be VERY skeptical of such a gun unless it came with a TON of provenance and authentication.
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Old March 1, 2010, 01:27 AM   #6
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We've been covering this all week on the Colt Forum

http://www.coltforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25974

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Old March 1, 2010, 01:30 AM   #7
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It would be neat if its real. The fact that it does not have a factory letter with it seems very odd. If the gun is authentic and you are asking that kind of money for it, why not get the factory letter?


This auction is for an extremely rare Colt Python in a .41 Mag caliber with a 6" bbl. Royal Blue finish. Gun is in mint condition with no noticeable turn line. Original box and manual included. No letter.

It looks nice though, but I'd have to have more proof of authenticity.


I don't know, I'm not a big enough authority on Colts to tell if the lettering looks right or not. Its also hard to see it good in the pics provided.
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Old March 1, 2010, 07:06 AM   #8
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I believe the 41 mag Pythons were converted by a private gunsmith. It will not letter or it would have a letter, OR the owner tried to letter it and it came up "357" and they are withholding that information.

Same applies to the infamous 22 LR Pythons.

This is what has kept me from buying a 22 WMR Colt Diamondback years ago. I'm not rich enough to throw away $5K or more on a whim. Colt made 22 WMR cylinders as parts and supposively made a few 22 WMR specimans early. I was not willing to take the chance but have come very close.

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Old March 1, 2010, 09:03 AM   #9
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FYI: Colt will letter that gun, but when it comes back from the historical department it will show leaving the factory as a 38 Target Python.
The guns box is pictured, but not the end label.
If you go back to my response above, you will get to see a picture of the end label posted for the guys on the Colt Forum.
The end label clearly shows that this was a 38 special, which was crossed off by whoever did the conversion. It also shows the barrel length and model numbers crossed off and rewritten.
This gun is a frankengun and NOT a factory done gun, therefore it's not worth the coin someone's tossing at it.
Buyer beware.

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Old March 1, 2010, 09:04 AM   #10
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Red Herring - sorry folks

Well, it was not a waste of time since I learned something I had not known. I feel for the poor SOB who buys that thing.
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Old March 1, 2010, 09:54 AM   #11
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I knew Jeff would be all over this.. thanks for the information. It certainly is an interesting read and I learned a lot today.
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Old March 1, 2010, 10:10 AM   #12
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Now I know why I stick with Smith & Wesson revolvers.
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Old March 1, 2010, 11:20 AM   #13
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Looks like this one finally hit the reserve at $5k.

Someone is going to really take it hard on this one.
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Old March 1, 2010, 04:43 PM   #14
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Looks like this one finally hit the reserve at $5k.
Someone is going to really take it hard on this one.
Nah. It'll be back up for auction in a year—unless, of course, some self-appointed genius runs .41 magnum ammunition through it.
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Old March 1, 2010, 07:25 PM   #15
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As always, learn something new everyday!
Do you think it would hold or just start cracking up, or worse?
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Old March 1, 2010, 08:59 PM   #16
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41 Python

I had a FFL(in my home)for 20-couple years in Virginia...actually HIVEL,right across the river from you.I got it in 1983 and began receiving flyers from various wholesalers almost immediately.I recall seeing an ad from a fairly well known wholesaler for 41 Magnum Pythons.Fairly well known,but I can`t remember who it was.The ad even stated something to the effect"Thats Right,A 41 Magnum"as if the reader would think initially that it was a misprint.The dealer cost at the time(mid or a little later 80s)was I think $695.I toyed with the idea of getting one but I had(and still do)a 4"57 and a 6"57 and a 4 and 6 inch 357 Python.I figured I would see one around and make up my mind then.I saw the ad a total of 2 or 3 times and then never again.Now that dealer would probably have 50 to 100 available to sell or he wouldn`t waste his $ advertising.If he only had a couple he could have picked up the phone and disposed of them over the phone,so there are "some "more out there in private hands.

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Now that dealer would probably have 50 to 100 available to sell or he wouldn`t waste his $ advertising.
Flyers are cheap; they're also a good way to gauge market interest. If Colt had manufactured more than a handful of test .41 magnums, they'd be well known, very high-priced collector's items.

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As well made as Pythons were in their glory days, they might hold up, although I've got to believe the cylinder walls would be awfully thin. That said™, I wouldn't bet my fingers or eyes on the proposition.
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Old March 2, 2010, 04:17 PM   #18
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It took a very little bit of research to find that Colt never produced a 41 Mag version of the Python. Anyone who would lay out that kind of cash without due diligance for an un-lettered chop shop special is just asking for it.

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Old March 2, 2010, 05:14 PM   #19
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Hey, you all have to admit though .... it probably is a 'rare' Python ... He probably is buying a 'one of a kind' .
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Old March 2, 2010, 06:17 PM   #20
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Yep, one of a kind.
If I drive over one with my car I'll have a one of a kind too.
Doesn't mean someone should shoot my $5k for it.

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Old March 2, 2010, 07:48 PM   #21
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That does sound rare...
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Old March 2, 2010, 07:52 PM   #22
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Ive got a gun smith by the name of romo that has claimed to have re-chambered several of them back in the day.
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Old March 3, 2010, 12:55 PM   #23
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Come to think of it are my guns are 'one of a kind'... Not one has the same serial # . Now, I am a shooter (every gun I own gets shot), so a gun commanding over $1000 is ridiculous in my mind.... and then keeping a gun buried unfired in a safe is even more mind boggling.... but then I don't have the mind of a 'collector' either . Hope the buyer enjoys his +$5000 piece of common blued steel .
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Old March 3, 2010, 01:20 PM   #24
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Hey, you all have to admit though .... it probably is a 'rare' Python ... He probably is buying a 'one of a kind'
Actually, it is not one of a kind, there were several gunsmiths back in the 70s and 80s rechambering Pythons.

I am not really sure why people get all excited thinking they had found a "one of a kind" Python chambered for 41 Magnum. Colt, unlike Ruger, was not in the habit of doing one-offs or short runs of anything. If it were a Colt factory revolver, there would be lots of them around. And considering the lineage of the Python, I seriously doubt that Colt would have done it anyway.
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Old March 3, 2010, 01:39 PM   #25
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IIRC there was a prototype Colt 41 Python. Mas Ayoob got to hold it and examine it back in the day.

In fact, I think there is a picture of him doing just that in his 6th edition Combat Handgunnery.

That said, the Python in question ain't it. Regards 18DAI.
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