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View Poll Results: S&W L- Frame, Which Caliber - .357 or .45
.357 114 71.70%
.45 45 28.30%
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Old February 13, 2016, 02:29 AM   #1
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.357 or .45 Revolver

Not wanting to start anything more than a 'which one would you choose'.

Don't need to know why. Just simply - which caliber

Gun is an L-Frame S&W - 3" barrel.
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Old February 13, 2016, 02:44 AM   #2
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I choose 45 because that would be a rather rare bird.
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Old February 13, 2016, 02:49 AM   #3
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Give me a 357 all day long.
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Old February 13, 2016, 02:52 AM   #4
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I chose .45 because you are not going to extract the maximum potential from the .357 S&W Magnum with a 3 inch barrel.

A 3 inch .45 barrel in an "L" framed S&W would yield the same ballistics as a 4 1/2 inch barreled self-loader. Not a bad idea, eh?
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Old February 13, 2016, 04:30 AM   #5
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.45 what? ACP? Long Colt? 5 .vs. 7 shot?

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Old February 13, 2016, 04:32 AM   #6
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45 acp is awesome in a sw 625 and you can shoot your 1911s
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Old February 13, 2016, 04:52 AM   #7
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With what little information you gave I voted 45 hoping you meant 45 ACP. If you would have said you were a hand loader I would have voted 357.
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Old February 13, 2016, 07:42 AM   #8
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i have ruger single action revolvers and bond arms derringers in 45lc, 45acp and 357/38/9mm. the 357 is my last choice, i simply dont enjoy how it sounds and feels, so i dont practice with it. a ruger in either 45 is sweet.
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Old February 13, 2016, 07:58 AM   #9
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Not sure what 45 you meant but regardless I'm a .357 / .38 guy.
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Old February 13, 2016, 08:07 AM   #10
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.357 or .45 Revolver
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Gun is an L-Frame S&W - 3" barrel
.357mag for me, since, AFAIK, an L-framed .45 doesn't exist. And if it did, it'd be a 5-shooter.
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Old February 13, 2016, 08:21 AM   #11
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.357 gives you more choices in ammunition and it'll be easier to sell if your tastes change over years. If you load your own ammunition, it'll be cheaper to feed as well. I'm not familiar with any .45's in an "L" frame...others can comment on that aspect.

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Old February 13, 2016, 02:13 PM   #12
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I just want to know what people would choose - .357 or .45 ACP ... sorry I left the ACP detail out.

That's it. No other explanation is needed.

Gun is a 3" Smith & Wesson L Frame. That's it - consider nothing else.

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Old February 13, 2016, 02:17 PM   #13
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.45 LC all day long.

There is no replacement for displacement. A .45 starts out the same size as an expanded .357. With Buffalo Bore loads, the .45 Colt has the same stopping power as .44 mag and almost the same power as .454 Casull.
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Old February 13, 2016, 02:48 PM   #14
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With Buffalo Bore loads, the .45 Colt has the same stopping power as .44 mag and almost the same power as .454 Casull.
From an L-frame?

Serious question: I don't know, but I thought fire-breathing stomper .45Colt loads were reserved for Rugers, Freedom Arms etc...
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Old February 13, 2016, 02:54 PM   #15
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I voted .357 simply because I have a .44Mag, so a .45 could be competition, not complement.

Of course that was until I read a further post that said .45ACP....

I think I'd still go .357, but it's not such an easy choice. The .45ACP is not a world away from the .44Spl, which is a round I've grown to really like...
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Old February 13, 2016, 03:03 PM   #16
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The op didn't stipulate intended use but, if for self-defense, I'd opt for the 686 Plus for the ammunition capacity advantage. One can argue endlessly over the merits or lack thereof when it comes to which cartridge offers the most effective "man-stopping power", but there's no question that more bullets are better than less in a gun fight.
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Old February 13, 2016, 03:04 PM   #17
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A short 3" barrel to use with either .357 Mag or .45 ACP?

For a carry role? I'd always opt for the .357 Magnum. Then again, I like my 4 5/8" Blackhawk .45 Colt/ACP Convertible 4 5/8" for an enjoyable range & "field" revolver.

For paper punching range fun? The .45 ACP snub would be fun for some folks. Hefty little snub and a moderately lightly recoiling caliber.

The .45 ACP is going to drop velocity with the snub barrel and a B/C gap. Doesn't mean you can't find some modern .45 ACP JHP designs which would probably have the low end of their velocity window within reach of the 3" barrel.

Just means the .357 Mag is probably more versatile and capable, using factory loads, even with a short 3" barrel (or even a 2 1/2" barrel).

For the folks looking to maximize capacity (in admittedly low capacity revolvers), the .357 would also give you 1-2 extra rounds in the L-frame configuration (the 686-Plus was a 7-shot model).

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Old February 13, 2016, 03:26 PM   #18
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.45 is more fun to shoot.
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Old February 13, 2016, 03:37 PM   #19
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I am thinking the L-frame would have to be limited to five rounds. Not so for the 357. My 44 Special 696 is an L frame and is 5 rounds at slightly smaller than 45.
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Old February 13, 2016, 03:50 PM   #20
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.45 ACP
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Old February 13, 2016, 04:35 PM   #21
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45 makes bigger holes!
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Old February 13, 2016, 04:45 PM   #22
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I'd take a 25-2 or 625 over a 357 any day.
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Old February 13, 2016, 05:34 PM   #23
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Fantasy poll, there's never been a factory .45 caliber L-frame. Perhaps someone has punched an M69 .44mag out to .45, I don't know, but if they have I think it would be counter productive. There isn't anything a .45ACP or LC can do that a .44mag or .44spl cannot.
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Old February 13, 2016, 06:34 PM   #24
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Since i am in the process of purchasing something akin to what has been suggested (Charter Arms Pitbull in .45 ACP) I have done quite a bit of research into the "viability" of this revolver.

The unique spring-loaded "fingers" (for the lack of a better term) lock into the edge of the rimless cartridge upon their insertion into the individual chambers. The elimination of the "full moon" and "half moon" clips (proper nomenclature) is a quantum leap when it comes to using a rimless self-loading cartridge in the cylinder of a revolver.

If Smith & Wesson were to pay a royalty to Charter Arms and engineer some revolvers to chamber autoloading cartridges, the .45 ACP in an "L" frame would be at the head of the list.

A Scandium "L"-frame revolver with a 3 inch (or 4 inch barrel) would sell like mad! Since the 3 inched model has the power eqivalency of a 4 inch revolver. A 4 inch barrel on a revolver such as this would be have the identical power level of a full-sized military 1911-A1.

Lightweight, powerful, easy to "bring to bear" upon the target and still fun to shoot. There is a substantial concealed-carry market for revolvers such as these. (Read: there would be men and women lining up around the block to purchase a revolver such as this).

What's not to like?
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