Snub 38/357 for HD for me - Page 2

TenRing · April 27, 2011, 12:08 AM

Judging from your photo, you seem to have a good selection of handguns there. I don't know why you choose to use the 5-shot (looks like a model 638) as the primary HD gun when you have an 8-shot model 327 that was built expecially for that.

Seems to me that the 8-shot 327 would be perfect and the barrel is still not too long for close quarters defense. The J frame would by my carry piece and HD BUG but not my HD primary.

C0untZer0 · April 27, 2011, 12:18 AM

OK, here is what you do... you buy one of those S&W 50 cal magnum revolvers... are you with me?

But.. you don't load it.. are you with me?

You keep your snubbie in your pocket... are you with me?

So the bad guy grabs your S&W 50 cal magnum and turns it on you... but it's not loaded !!!! are you with me?

In the time it takes the bad guy to grab your S&W 50 cal magnum, you whip out your snubbie and BLAM!

Not only is this plan sheer genius.. it's also fool proof.

Wildalaska · April 27, 2011, 01:08 AM

I'm gonna get one of them NAA breaktop 22 mags

WildcarrywithclassAlaska ™©2002-2011

bikerbill · April 28, 2011, 10:55 AM

Agree that revolvers are less likely to fail you in a moment of need ... but ... the ease of reloading a semi, especially if your alternative is a 5-shot snubbie, can't be discounted and is the main reason I keep a 4-inch 1911 and a spare mag in my nightstand, not a revolver. Plus, in my experience unless you practice constantly with a lightweight revolver, you will be more accurate with a semiauto, given the reduction in recoil ... love shooting my revolvers, but unless it was all I had, I'll stick to the 1911 for HD ...

Hey, Wild, I love my NAA Pug, carry it all day at home ... just got some of the new Speer 40-gr Gold Dot ammo designed for short barrels (blv one inch qualifies) ... very accurate, probably hurts like hell if it hits you ...

Deaf Smith · April 28, 2011, 07:07 PM

If all revolvers and all simi-autos are lumped into the same category, yea revolvers are more reliable as a whole.

BUT, if talking about the top makes of each kind, no.... Simi-autos are more reliable.

The Glock .vs. 1911 matches proved that with Glock 17s consistantly going over 1000 rounds WITHOUT ANY CLEANING. Not just one Glock 17, but for years EVERY Glock 17 used in the matches. The Glock 19s did the same to. Only the Glock 21, in .45, seemed to have about 3 stoppages consistantly.

Deaf

Nnobby45 · April 28, 2011, 08:12 PM

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But now - hey, you've made a beleiver out of me!

It's snubbie all the way for me from now on !

Yes, I agree! If you can't handle all home self defense situatations with a 5 shot snubbie---like Bubba the Door Buster and his 3 friends, then you can't handle it with your SIG P226, P220 Glock, XD, etc.

And we all know that, during times of extreme stress, fear, and adrenaline filled emotions, you'll have plenty of time to retreat to your long gun, if need be. Not to worry. Just make sure your primary hand gun has that short bbl. that Bubba and his three friends can't grab.

And, as an added bonus, it would be easy to run dry so that if Bubba did get it away from you, it would be empty as you sprint for your long gun---or the semi-auto that you could have had to begin with.

OK, I got carried away a little---just had a Red Bull.

GregInAtl · April 28, 2011, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by C0untZer0

OK, here is what you do... you buy one of those S&W 50 cal magnum revolvers... are you with me?

That's a good one, C0unt

Edward429451 · April 29, 2011, 12:11 PM

It don't have to be a 50 cal magnum, it can be an Airsoft pistol...Levels...

8shot357 · April 30, 2011, 03:14 PM

This is a great discussion of HD, my point was/is try to take my little pee shooter AKA S&W 38spl +P Airweight out of my hand at 3am in the morning.

It's easy for you/them to take that 21ga and shove it up your arse.

Pull back your little tiny baby (snub 38+p) and dump a load in them.

Well now I only have 5 shot's(!), Right

? Did you ever hear of a NY reload

? A SP101 (3") with .357 Rem 125g SJHPs. Then the rest is history. If they're not dead enough I pull out the serious stuff.

Them or me!

April 28, 2011, 10:55 AM	#29
bikerbill Senior Member Join Date: September 19, 2007 Location: Lago Vista TX Posts: 2,134	Agree that revolvers are less likely to fail you in a moment of need ... but ... the ease of reloading a semi, especially if your alternative is a 5-shot snubbie, can't be discounted and is the main reason I keep a 4-inch 1911 and a spare mag in my nightstand, not a revolver. Plus, in my experience unless you practice constantly with a lightweight revolver, you will be more accurate with a semiauto, given the reduction in recoil ... love shooting my revolvers, but unless it was all I had, I'll stick to the 1911 for HD ... Hey, Wild, I love my NAA Pug, carry it all day at home ... just got some of the new Speer 40-gr Gold Dot ammo designed for short barrels (blv one inch qualifies) ... very accurate, probably hurts like hell if it hits you ... __________________ "The gun has been called the great equalizer ... It insures that the people are the equal of their government whenever that government forgets that it is servant and not master of the governed." --Ronald Reagan

April 28, 2011, 07:07 PM	#30
Deaf Smith Senior Member Join Date: October 31, 2000 Location: Texican! Posts: 2,693	If all revolvers and all simi-autos are lumped into the same category, yea revolvers are more reliable as a whole. BUT, if talking about the top makes of each kind, no.... Simi-autos are more reliable. The Glock .vs. 1911 matches proved that with Glock 17s consistantly going over 1000 rounds WITHOUT ANY CLEANING. Not just one Glock 17, but for years EVERY Glock 17 used in the matches. The Glock 19s did the same to. Only the Glock 21, in .45, seemed to have about 3 stoppages consistantly. Deaf __________________ “We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality” Ayn Rand

April 29, 2011, 12:11 PM	#33
Edward429451 Senior Member Join Date: November 12, 2000 Location: Colorado Springs, Colorado Posts: 9,457	It don't have to be a 50 cal magnum, it can be an Airsoft pistol...Levels... __________________ "Always place your clothes and weapons where you can find them in the dark" Lazarus Long "Understand that the enemy is not the enemy in his own eyes ;this may offer you an opportunity to make him your friend. If not, you can kill him without hate, and quickly." Lazarus Long

April 30, 2011, 03:14 PM	#34
8shot357 Junior member Join Date: September 7, 2010 Posts: 1,740	OPr Thanks for your responses This is a great discussion of HD, my point was/is try to take my little pee shooter AKA S&W 38spl +P Airweight out of my hand at 3am in the morning. It's easy for you/them to take that 21ga and shove it up your arse. Pull back your little tiny baby (snub 38+p) and dump a load in them. Well now I only have 5 shot's(!), Right? Did you ever hear of a NY reload? A SP101 (3") with .357 Rem 125g SJHPs. Then the rest is history. If they're not dead enough I pull out the serious stuff. Them or me!

April 27, 2011, 12:08 AM	#26
TenRing Senior Member Join Date: December 1, 2009 Posts: 384	Judging from your photo, you seem to have a good selection of handguns there. I don't know why you choose to use the 5-shot (looks like a model 638) as the primary HD gun when you have an 8-shot model 327 that was built expecially for that. Seems to me that the 8-shot 327 would be perfect and the barrel is still not too long for close quarters defense. The J frame would by my carry piece and HD BUG but not my HD primary.

April 27, 2011, 12:18 AM	#27
C0untZer0 Junior member Join Date: April 21, 2011 Location: Illinois Posts: 4,555	OK, here is what you do... you buy one of those S&W 50 cal magnum revolvers... are you with me? *But.. you don't* load it.. are you with me? You keep your snubbie in your pocket... are you with me? So the bad guy grabs your S&W 50 cal magnum and turns it on you... but it's not loaded !!!! are you with me? In the time it takes the bad guy to grab your S&W 50 cal magnum, you whip out your snubbie and BLAM! Not only is this plan sheer genius.. it's also fool proof.

April 27, 2011, 01:08 AM	#28
Wildalaska Junior member Join Date: November 25, 2002 Location: In my own little weird world in Anchorage, Alaska Posts: 14,174	I'm gonna get one of them NAA breaktop 22 mags WildcarrywithclassAlaska ™©2002-2011