.40S&W loads using cast MB and W231 or Clays

djboo4you · February 21, 2011, 01:59 AM

Ok, so here's deal. I am wanting to reload for my .40 M&P and .40 Springfield EMP. I definitely want to use Missouri Bullets because these are going to be plinking rounds. I am up for suggestions as far as what weight to use, however, I have some limitations on what powder to use. I currently have about 6 pounds of Clays from my old 12 gauge reloading days and a pound of W231 at my disposal. Any suggestions are appreciated.

djboo4you · February 22, 2011, 12:27 PM

Bump

Turf · February 22, 2011, 12:33 PM

take a look at this thread over on THR - I'm in a similar boat with you although I don't have a large qty of any one powder -

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthrea...68#post7112368

Edited to add: the W231 sounds like something I would like to try -

hornady · February 22, 2011, 01:26 PM

If looking for one powder that covers just about every pistol load, W231 would be about as close as you can get, but then HP-38 is the same powder at a little less cost. You will need to decide on the bullets you want to use, I prefer the 180-grain in my Glock 22, but I am shooting Berry bullets at cast loads. And I use HP-38 in them.

SauerGrapes · February 22, 2011, 08:46 PM

If you can find some load data for the clays in .40cal, go for it. Quite a few guys at the club use clays for .45cal bullseye shooting.
I'm a shotgun reloader myself and use American Select, Greendot and Universal for my pistol loading. I wish someone would do some load data for Alliant Claydot since I have 12lbs of it...lol.

djboo4you · February 23, 2011, 11:38 AM

So I did a little more looking and found this thread over at Brian Enos Forums. A bunch of guys use Clays from what I am reading and I thought I would share.

http://www.brianenos.com/forums/inde...owtopic=105461

overkill0084 · February 23, 2011, 11:54 AM

I use the Missouri 180 gr in my XD.
http://www.missouribullet.com/detail...y=11&keywords=

I have no experience w/Clays, but as I understand it, it's a good versatile powder. For that matter, so is 231. You will probably end up using both for varying applications.

hot_wire53 · March 1, 2011, 10:54 PM

Clays is a great powder for shotguns, 38 special, and 45acp but I had trouble with stovepipes in my XD 40 when using it. The 40sw is a high pressure cartridge and I have had excellent results using Bullseye powder for this caliber.

djboo4you · March 6, 2011, 10:27 PM

thanks for the input guys, anyone else have any experience with Clays and Missouri Bullets? I'm up for any suggestions.

February 21, 2011, 01:59 AM	#1
djboo4you Junior Member Join Date: September 2, 2010 Posts: 11	.40S&W loads using cast MB and W231 or Clays Ok, so here's deal. I am wanting to reload for my .40 M&P and .40 Springfield EMP. I definitely want to use Missouri Bullets because these are going to be plinking rounds. I am up for suggestions as far as what weight to use, however, I have some limitations on what powder to use. I currently have about 6 pounds of Clays from my old 12 gauge reloading days and a pound of W231 at my disposal. Any suggestions are appreciated.

February 22, 2011, 12:33 PM	#3
Turf Junior Member Join Date: September 5, 2010 Location: Greenville SC Posts: 11	take a look at this thread over on THR - I'm in a similar boat with you although I don't have a large qty of any one powder - http://www.thehighroad.org/showthrea...68#post7112368 Edited to add: the W231 sounds like something I would like to try - Last edited by Turf; February 22, 2011 at 12:39 PM.

February 22, 2011, 08:46 PM	#5
SauerGrapes Senior Member Join Date: March 22, 2009 Location: S.E.PA. Posts: 522	If you can find some load data for the clays in .40cal, go for it. Quite a few guys at the club use clays for .45cal bullseye shooting. I'm a shotgun reloader myself and use American Select, Greendot and Universal for my pistol loading. I wish someone would do some load data for Alliant Claydot since I have 12lbs of it...lol. __________________ NRA member, DCF&S member, PAFOA member

February 23, 2011, 11:54 AM	#7
overkill0084 Senior Member Join Date: August 7, 2010 Location: Northern, UT Posts: 1,115	I use the Missouri 180 gr in my XD. http://www.missouribullet.com/detail...y=11&keywords= I have no experience w/Clays, but as I understand it, it's a good versatile powder. For that matter, so is 231. You will probably end up using both for varying applications. __________________ Cheers, Greg "We have normality. I repeat, we have normality. Anything you still can't cope with is therefore your own problem." Douglas Adams

February 22, 2011, 12:27 PM	#2
djboo4you Junior Member Join Date: September 2, 2010 Posts: 11	Bump

February 22, 2011, 01:26 PM	#4
hornady Senior Member Join Date: April 6, 2009 Location: SWPA Posts: 428	If looking for one powder that covers just about every pistol load, W231 would be about as close as you can get, but then HP-38 is the same powder at a little less cost. You will need to decide on the bullets you want to use, I prefer the 180-grain in my Glock 22, but I am shooting Berry bullets at cast loads. And I use HP-38 in them.

February 23, 2011, 11:38 AM	#6
djboo4you Junior Member Join Date: September 2, 2010 Posts: 11	So I did a little more looking and found this thread over at Brian Enos Forums. A bunch of guys use Clays from what I am reading and I thought I would share. http://www.brianenos.com/forums/inde...owtopic=105461

March 1, 2011, 10:54 PM	#8
hot_wire53 Junior Member Join Date: March 1, 2011 Posts: 2	Clays is a great powder for shotguns, 38 special, and 45acp but I had trouble with stovepipes in my XD 40 when using it. The 40sw is a high pressure cartridge and I have had excellent results using Bullseye powder for this caliber.

March 6, 2011, 10:27 PM	#9
djboo4you Junior Member Join Date: September 2, 2010 Posts: 11	thanks for the input guys, anyone else have any experience with Clays and Missouri Bullets? I'm up for any suggestions.