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Old February 7, 2011, 05:26 PM   #1
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.22 for carrying in my boat for cottonmouth snakes

I am looking around for a fairly accurate small .22 rifle to have in my boat and around my pond for snakes that are about to come out this Spring. I have quite a few of these every year in my part of the country and they are a nuisance and dangerous. Something that would not be affected by a little water on it now and again would be a plus too. Any suggestions?
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Old February 7, 2011, 05:30 PM   #2
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Find a good used H&R 999, dead cottonmouth crawling.

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/6163/hr30ax.jpg

Edit: sorry, missed the rifle part
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Old February 7, 2011, 05:38 PM   #3
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remington 597

I saw a Remington 597 with a synthetic stock for not a lot of money. Anyone had experience with that rifle. I am not a good enough shot with a pistol for the H&R 999.
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Old February 7, 2011, 05:54 PM   #4
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.410 shotty... or a Judge!
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Old February 7, 2011, 06:05 PM   #5
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.410 shotty... or a Judge!
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I guess I'm not a good enough shot to hit one of those critters with a .22, particularly when I'm excited. A .410 gives me a little leeway, plus I'm less likely to shoot a hole in the bottom of my boat!

Not that that's ever happened to me...
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Old February 7, 2011, 06:22 PM   #6
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I have a Rem 597 , synthetic OD Green stock, love it. It was 199 with scope. I just put a Nikon ProStaff 4-12x40 on it, plus a Volquartsen Edge Extractor and Target Hammer. I spent Friday picking off numbers and letters of paper target @ 25 yds at the range. love this rifle, very good and fun etc.

Keep in mind this is NOT the Rem 597 AR style that I didn't even know they made when I got mine. This is a "sporter" type rifle etc.
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Old February 7, 2011, 06:23 PM   #7
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Since you said rifle this is the little critter I would suggest.
Ruger 10-22 Synthetic stock stainless steel for only 300 Sug retail.
The nice thing about a Ruger 10-22 is all the accessories you can get for the thing. Heck if you want to make it look like an M16 you can, for me I prefer the original version.
They are good guns for the money.

http://www.ruger.com/products/1022Carbine/models.html
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Old February 7, 2011, 06:41 PM   #8
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How much do you want to spend? At various times I've carried either a .22 rifle or a .38/.357 loaded with snake shot. Even though the .22 rifle is cheaper, I found the snakeshot loaded pistol is much easier to deal with.
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Old February 7, 2011, 07:42 PM   #9
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I wanted to spend around $200 or a little more.
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Old February 7, 2011, 07:53 PM   #10
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For $200, you are going to be limited to either a well used .38 handgun or pretty much any .22 rifle you want.

I still have my Grandfather's boat snake gun. It is a Remington 512 bolt action. The barrel and action are quite pitted from time spent on the boat, but it still shoots very accurately. One of these days, I'm going to try to bring it back into "servicable" condition - probably by blasting out the rust pits and doing a GunKote job on the barrel and action.

I said that as a reminder that a boat gun takes some serious abuse. If you can shop around and find a stainless gun with no wood (either rubber grips for a handgun or a composite stock for a rifle), it will take the wet environment better.
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Old February 7, 2011, 08:09 PM   #11
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NEF

Consider a single shot NEF - I have several both shotty's and rifles. Luv em - cheap, reliable as the sun coming up and accurate. Quick to reload (buttstock spare ammo holder - also cheap) - although singles are good at making the first one count.
I have many other "nicer" guns but for your application, it's perfect.
Beware...they can be addicting.

Edit: should have $50 left over for ammo and accessories
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Old February 7, 2011, 08:18 PM   #12
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The Ruger 10-22.

Or something better yet a Ruger MKIII Target in stainless.

http://www.ruger.com/products/markII...on/models.html
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Old February 7, 2011, 09:01 PM   #13
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Not a rifle, but better

http://www.hr1871.com/Firearms/Shotguns/tamer.asp
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Old February 7, 2011, 09:11 PM   #14
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Get an inexpensive .22 pistol and load it up with bird shot. Easier to store on boat, or in tackle box and it will kill a cottonmouth with less effort at close ranges than a 40 grain .22LR. It worked for me many a fishing trip when I lived in the SE. Don't be poking no holes in your boat hull. I've seen that happen more than once when a cotton mouth would drop out of a waterside bush into some poor mans aluminum fishing boat. They would shoot first and try to plug holes later. JMHO

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Old February 7, 2011, 10:00 PM   #15
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22 pistols...

Aren't there often feeding problems wiith .22 pistols when using "snakeshot?"
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Old February 7, 2011, 10:29 PM   #16
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Small .22 repeating rifle? Not much $$? Another alternative is the Henry H001. Lever action, youth model. Small, but very accurate.
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Old February 7, 2011, 11:06 PM   #17
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Rossi Matched Pair.

.22LR barrel, .410 barrel.


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Old February 7, 2011, 11:17 PM   #18
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I suggest the Ruger 10/22 Carbine All Weather Model. Stainless steel construction with polymer stock. 37" OAL and 5 lbs. They run around $250. Replace the factory stock with a Choate folding stock for about $100 to cut 9" of OAL. Well my suggestion is over your $200 budget. I'd even check pawn shops and gun shops for used .22's to fit your budget.
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Old February 7, 2011, 11:45 PM   #19
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I like a Ruger Single Six (stainless if you're in a boat a lot, especially down south where you also sweat a lot) with the .22WRM cylinder loaded with birdshot shells. The WRM shotshells are much more effective on snakes than the .22 LR shot.

If you HAVE to use a long gun, either get a single shot .410 or an NEF "Sportster" single shot .22WRM. The Sportster is cheap, light, has a "plastic" stock so will probably float (try it on dry land) shots shotshells fine, and is quite accurate when you use rifle bullets in stead of shot. And the .22WRM is more powerful than you think; 'way more powerful than a .22LR. In case you need to shoot a 'gator or snapper.
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Old February 8, 2011, 03:00 AM   #20
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what ever u get just dont shoot a hole in the boat and i would go with the likes of a 410 in a SS finish if u can find one
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Old February 8, 2011, 08:21 AM   #21
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Aren't there often feeding problems wiith .22 pistols when using "snakeshot?"
With an autoloader, yes. With a revolver, no.
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Old February 8, 2011, 08:42 AM   #22
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Snakeshot in a .22lr is a 10-foot range proposition. I'd stick with a .22 LR semi-auto using solids. Check out the Marlin SS semi-autos. They may be cheaper than the 10-22 and most have a tubular magazine that holds about 15 shots.

For a handgun, it's hard to beat the Ruger single-six convertible with both LR and .22 Mag cylinders. A bit pricey, but a great carrying pistol.
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Old February 8, 2011, 08:46 AM   #23
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Snake Charmer fits the bill, completely. Single shot 410, pistol grip, short barrel, 18 1/2" as I recall. I've had one for years. Remembering one time on Lake Bisteneau, we were fishing back in the toolies, and the cotton-mouths were thicker than the mosquitoes. And most of them were in the "attack" mode.
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Old February 8, 2011, 12:25 PM   #24
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Snake Charmer fits the bill, completely. Single shot 410, pistol grip, short barrel, 18 1/2" as I recall.
I had forgotten about those. There is the Snake Charmer II (stainless) that is a french design. There is also the Snake Tamer made by H&R. Both can be had in your price range if you shop around.
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Old February 8, 2011, 03:19 PM   #25
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There's also a cheap .410 single-shot handgun that goes by at least a couple of names. Mine was called the Comanche. It has a 10" barrel and Single-action type grip frame and external hammer with transfer bar. Factory trigger pull is heavy, but it can be worked to something reasonable.

There are lots of them showing up at gun shows and used gun racks. You can probably pick one up for $150 used or $180 new.

I gave mine to my son-in-law to shoot grub-eating crows and other pests at the golf course he runs. It's also quite effective with 3-OOO buckshot pellets per round, and they can be shot with the choke in.

Mine wasn't very accurate with .45 Long Colt ammo.
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