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Old January 27, 2011, 09:21 AM   #26
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Rudy Etchen owned lots of shotguns, up to bespoke Purdeys. He shot 870s for the most part and set a few records with them. That includes some 100 straights in trap doubles.

I love my 870s. The combination of reliability, flexibility and ergos is hard to beat. Still, on the clays range I score a little better with my O/Us. In the field on moving food, it's a wash.
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Old January 27, 2011, 10:48 PM   #27
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The beretta 391 has been used to win more shootoff's, by pro shooters than any other gun. Seeing as most shootoffs are on a make-a-break field, why would they restrict themselves to only one choke???!!??
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Old January 28, 2011, 12:01 AM   #28
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Pump guys can be BETTER than semi auto guys. I can shoot 4 hand thrown clays with a pump action mossberg 500 20 gauge. A lot of guys can't do that with a semi-auto 12 gauge.

Like anything, its all about practice. There's a guy at my local club that has a very nice O/U that costs $9,000. I paid $220 for my mossberg and I shoot just as well as he does. Its all about practice.
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Old January 28, 2011, 12:41 AM   #29
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Patrick Flanigan set new world record of 7 hand thrown clay targets on
10-22-10 with Mossberg 500 but his current world record with a semi-auto from his old sponser using Winchester SX3 is 11 hand thrown clay targets which shows the huge advantage of a semi-auto. Also, set record of 12 shots in 1.42 seconds with same SX3. I will be interested to see if he can run the 930 at same rate as SX3 I doubt it but it would be nice to see a $600.00 gun perform as well as or better than the $1,200.00 gun.
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Old January 28, 2011, 01:08 AM   #30
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I will not disagree that an o/u is a better option for the different clay disciplines... But I find myself taking pumps into the field as they are more of a challenge and they make me think... There is nothing better than dropping a bird each time you pull the trigger and cycle that action... The first time I did it with an 870 was 3 shots and 3 down birds... I get a lot of satisfaction out of doing a double with o/u or sxs but its nothing like doing a triple with a pump... I've hunted with a semi and honestly, its too easy... My 1100 with skeet choke might was well be an AAA gun with thermal tracking... Don't think for a second I don't like beating the pants off someone in the field while shooting my .410 870 while they are shooting a 12 gauge autoloader...
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Old January 28, 2011, 07:06 AM   #31
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jmortimer,

Sounds like Flanigan MATCHED the record of 7 hand-thrown clays with a pump since Herb Parsons did it 60 years ago with his Model 12. However, perhaps it was the first time anyone had done it with a Mossberg 500.
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Old January 28, 2011, 09:25 AM   #32
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I did not know that. It is listed as a "record" for hand thrown clay targets on Flanigan's web site. Parsons must have been great to watch as I know Flanigan is.
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Old January 28, 2011, 10:28 AM   #33
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chas08 posted this Youtube video of Herb Parsons breaking 7 hand thrown targets with his model 12 on The High Road, Shotguns forum. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nu9-D9KqR4k. Watching the YouTube video, it appears that Herb broke the 7 clays in a little over 2 seconds.

I think it is from the original 25 minute video entitled, The Showman Shooter that was filmed in 1954 or 1955 and may still be is available on the web site Showman Shooter. http://showmanshooter.com/

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