The Firing Line Forums

Go Back   The Firing Line Forums > Hogan's Alley > Tactics and Training

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old January 5, 2013, 02:56 AM   #1
cheezhed
Senior Member
 
Join Date: November 28, 2007
Posts: 296
How long to reload a revolver?

I was wondering about how long does it take to reload a wheel gun
using any means commonly available.
cheezhed is offline  
Old January 5, 2013, 04:11 AM   #2
TripHlx
Senior Member
 
Join Date: October 10, 2011
Location: Greenville, SC
Posts: 110
When I was practicing daily, I could reload my Ruger SP-101 with an HKS Speedloader in about a second and a half, give or take a bit.
__________________
"If you carry a gun, people will call you paranoid. That's ridiculous. If I have a gun, what in the hell do I have to be paranoid for." - Clint Smith
TripHlx is offline  
Old January 5, 2013, 06:40 AM   #3
Sport45
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 25, 1999
Location: Too close to Houston
Posts: 4,085
I normaly poke them in one at a time and it takes about 15 seconds, maybe. The SBH took a bit longer...
__________________
Proud member of the NRA and Texas State Rifle Association. Registered and active voter.
Sport45 is offline  
Old January 5, 2013, 09:03 AM   #4
MTSCMike
Senior Member
 
Join Date: March 15, 2011
Location: Middle TN
Posts: 164
From last shot fired to first shot after reload during competition I average about 2 to 2.5 seconds with a Smith 625 (moon clip gun). This is based on review of the timer during several stages of an IDPA match. I shoot at the upper end of Sharpshooter level. Masters are quite a bit faster.
__________________
IDPA Member A00640
Founding Charter Member - Middle Tennessee Shooter's Club
MTSCMike is offline  
Old January 5, 2013, 02:35 PM   #5
Dwight55
Senior Member
 
Join Date: June 18, 2004
Location: Central Ohio
Posts: 2,566
For the average person / average shooter, . . . it is considerably longer than it takes to reload almost any semi-auto.

Speedloaders are the ticket, . . . but only unless you are willing to spend literally hours of practice, . . . most folks I know are in the 10 to 15 second cagtegory, . . . using speedloaders.

I've used speed strips and speed loaders, . . . that's one of the reasons I carry a 1911.

May God bless,
Dwight
__________________
www.dwightsgunleather.com
If you can breathe, . . . thank God!
If you can read, . . . thank a teacher!
If you are reading this in English, . . . thank a Veteran!
Dwight55 is offline  
Old January 5, 2013, 04:28 PM   #6
PawPaw
Senior Member
 
Join Date: December 24, 2010
Location: Central Louisiana
Posts: 3,115
I've used revolvers for years, and although I'm not the fastest gun on the line, our qualification is fairly rigid. Six rounds standing, six rounds kneeling, mandatory reload while kneeling - 25 seconds. I've done it with speed loaders, speed strips, and single cartridges. Speed loaders are faster, but it can be done with single cartridges without running in to the stop buzzer.
__________________
Dennis Dezendorf

http://pawpawshouse.blogspot.com
PawPaw is offline  
Old January 5, 2013, 05:42 PM   #7
Nanuk
Senior Member
 
Join Date: January 2, 2005
Location: Where the deer and the antelope roam.
Posts: 1,709
I go about 1.5 - 2.0 on a good day. Semi reload is twice as fast. I prefer Safariland comp II's.
__________________
My rifle and pistol are tools, I am the weapon.
Nanuk is offline  
Old January 5, 2013, 05:56 PM   #8
Don P
Senior Member
 
Join Date: December 17, 2005
Location: Florida
Posts: 4,825
Yep and the machine Jerry M. can get 12 rounds off with a reload in under 3 seconds. Practice practice and practice some more. If you get a chance look into ICORE shooting www.icore.org. The matches will give you plenty of reloading practice along with trigger time.
__________________
NRA Life Member, NRA Range Safety Officer, IDPA Safety Officer, USPSA NROI Range Officer
As you are, I once was, As I am, You will be.
Don P is offline  
Old January 5, 2013, 06:52 PM   #9
SDC
Senior Member
 
Join Date: January 23, 2001
Location: People's Republic of Kanada
Posts: 1,644
Realistically, with a revolver using moonclips, under 2 seconds; speedloaders maybe a hair faster, and without speedloaders stretches that out to maybe 6 or 7 seconds, if you can load 2 at a time from loops. Most people don't realize this, but one of the worst 5 spree killings in history was carried out using a hunting knife and a double-action revolver, in a restaurant in Columbia, with 30 dead. Technology is not nearly as important as having a plan and the desire to carry it out.
__________________
Gun control in Canada: making the streets safer for rapists, muggers, and other violent criminals since 1936.
SDC is offline  
Old January 5, 2013, 08:17 PM   #10
1stmar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: March 21, 2012
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 1,329
Well this isn't really human IMO but you won't see it done any faster...:-)
Somewhere sub second I'm guessing

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lLk1v5bSFPw
1stmar is offline  
Old January 5, 2013, 08:22 PM   #11
Hook686
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 22, 2005
Location: USA The Great State of California
Posts: 1,987
I take way too long to reload my J-Frame, maybe 15 seconds, or more, so I carry a backup gun and can do a NY reload in maybe 2-3 seconds.
__________________
Hook686

When the number of people in institutions reaches 51%, we change sides.
Hook686 is offline  
Old January 5, 2013, 08:28 PM   #12
MrBorland
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 31, 2007
Location: NC
Posts: 1,907
Realistically, good competitive revolver shooters, under match conditions, can reload with spring-loaded CompIII or Jetloader speedloaders in about 3 seconds even. That's the time from the shot before to the shot after the reload. And those shots hit their mark, too, i.e. in the A- or down zero- zone. Very good competitive wheelgunners can do this in under 3. Anything under 2.5seconds (with good shots before & after) is wicked fast. A moonclip would likely take about half a second off that. In contrast, twist-type speedloaders like the HKS probably add about a second or more.

Below is a vid of me and a 2.75 second speedloader reload, which is right around my norm. FWIW, I'm a Master level SSR shooter. If you're just starting out with your reloads, focus more on getting the movements down smoothly and getting good hits before & after, then start thinking about speed.

If speed is your gig, the right gear is important, but the real secret is a metric boatload of practice at home with dummy rounds. Moonclips, for instance, ain't gonna get you there on their own.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNFerCV3W4Y
MrBorland is offline  
Old January 5, 2013, 11:07 PM   #13
cheezhed
Senior Member
 
Join Date: November 28, 2007
Posts: 296
Thanks

Most people don't realize this, but one of the worst 5 spree killings in history was carried out using a hunting knife and a double-action revolver, in a restaurant in Columbia, with 30 dead.
Can you give me the time frame and location of this event please.


Thanks for the info. I was in a discussion with a non shooter over school shootings and his take was that the body count would be lower if magazine fed firearms were banned and if we were to have handguns they should be revolvers because of the length of time of the reload the cops could get there before to many shots were fired.
There was no way I could convince him that that was the dumbest thing I have ever heard as I can reload my revolver in less than 5 seconds and could go through 50 rounds in less than 2 minutes if I wanted to. The point I wanted to make was that the high fatality rate was due to ease of entrance to a gun free zone and the inability for anyone to defend themselves or others.
cheezhed is offline  
Old January 6, 2013, 12:00 AM   #14
9mm
Senior Member
 
Join Date: January 9, 2011
Location: Land of the Free
Posts: 2,720
Are we using speed strips/sks loader/manual? my sks loader doesnt fit well in my J frame so I don't count it.
__________________
See user title
9mm is offline  
Old January 6, 2013, 10:29 AM   #15
Smit
Senior Member
 
Join Date: February 18, 2012
Posts: 335
Practice once a day with a speed loader. I did this for a while and was able to get pretty fast in no time. Also, practice with your eyes closed once you get comfortable enough. In a stressful situation, that can be valuable.
__________________
"Vegetarian, an old Indian word for bad hunter."
Smit is offline  
Old January 6, 2013, 10:44 AM   #16
SDC
Senior Member
 
Join Date: January 23, 2001
Location: People's Republic of Kanada
Posts: 1,644
"Can you give me the time frame and location of this event please.


Thanks for the info. I was in a discussion with a non shooter over school shootings and his take was that the body count would be lower if magazine fed firearms were banned and if we were to have handguns they should be revolvers because of the length of time of the reload the cops could get there before to many shots were fired."

You can google "Pozzetto restaurant massacre" for plenty of info on this one; it happened Dec. 4, 1986, when Campo Delgado walked into a restaurant in Bogota with a hunting knife and a Llama DA revolver in a briefcase, he sat down, had a nice meal, and then started killing people. Before this started, he had already killed one of his students and her mother, another 6 in his building and he killed another 20 in the restaurant. If only ONE of those people had had a weapon and the intent to use it, they could have ended it right there.
__________________
Gun control in Canada: making the streets safer for rapists, muggers, and other violent criminals since 1936.
SDC is offline  
Old January 6, 2013, 10:48 AM   #17
Skadoosh
Senior Member
 
Join Date: December 13, 2010
Location: Virginia
Posts: 1,776
Dwight55 wrote:
Quote:
most folks I know are in the 10 to 15 second cagtegory, . . . using speedloaders.
I find that very hard to believe. Even accounting for removing empty brass that doesn't drop free of their chambers, most people I know...even those who are unpracticed in reloading a revolver, can reload with a speed-loader from a jacket pocket in less than 10 seconds.
__________________
NRA Life Member (2003)
USN Retired
I think that one of the notions common to the anti-gunner is the idea that being a victim is 'noble'; as if it is better to be noble in your suffering than disruptive in your own defense.
Skadoosh is offline  
Old January 6, 2013, 11:28 AM   #18
jimbob86
Senior Member
 
Join Date: October 4, 2007
Location: All the way to NEBRASKA
Posts: 7,109
Quote:
most folks I know are in the 10 to 15 second cagtegory, . . . using speedloaders.
Do most of the people you know have some kind of physical disability?

I not a wheel gun guy, and even I can do a 5 sec reload with an HKS speedloader.
__________________
TheGolden Rule of Tool Use: "If you don't know what you are doing, DON'T."

http://nefirearm.com/
jimbob86 is offline  
Old January 6, 2013, 11:30 AM   #19
ibewbull
Member
 
Join Date: December 15, 2010
Location: WISCONSIN
Posts: 23
How long is an individual issue.

I have never been a speed freak when reloading comes.
Tatical awareness is more important to me.
Plus being able to reload without looking. It will either be dark or you will want to keep your eye on the "target".

Mt prefered way to carry extra ammo is a Bianchi Speed strip. It lies flat in the pocket or in a Simply Rugged pouch.
Now down to the issue if you need more than 5,6,7,or even 8 rounds.
I don't remember where or when I herd of the New York Reload but it is a back up gun ready to go.
So if you are packing a .357 3 inch 686 with 158 gr loads in the chambers then a possible BUG would be a 640 with 158 gr. LHP with .38s in a speed strip for both.
I also like the option of passing my bug to someone else if need be. I can not figure out a better way to watch my six.
__________________
Steve Bull Parro

ibewbull is offline  
Old January 6, 2013, 08:09 PM   #20
jason_iowa
Senior Member
 
Join Date: July 30, 2011
Posts: 686
I'm about half a second slower on a revolver then I am with an auto. If I practiced more I'm sure I could do it about the same.
jason_iowa is offline  
Old January 7, 2013, 02:47 AM   #21
Jim March
Senior Member
 
Join Date: February 14, 1999
Location: Pittsburg, CA, USA
Posts: 7,328
"Just" convert it to magazines and auto-ejection:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4XtVldNbO4
__________________
Jim March
Jim March is offline  
Old January 7, 2013, 10:13 AM   #22
SgtLumpy
Senior Member
 
Join Date: January 2, 2013
Posts: 779
My best:

J frame, 5 rounds -
From "last round fired" to reload and "next round fired"...

Loose rounds from pocket - 9 sec
Speed loader - <3 sec

K frame, 6 rounds -
Essentially no difference, including the loose round reloads. Likely due to me practicing a lot more with the bigger pistol than the snubbie. These are all duty guns, not race guns. Normal, leather holsters, not competition racks. Shots were placed, not just bang bang noise.

There were guys faster than me. Just normal cops that practiced, not competitors.


Sgt Lumpy - n0eq
SgtLumpy is offline  
Old January 7, 2013, 10:00 PM   #23
tet4
Senior Member
 
Join Date: November 13, 2009
Posts: 232
The key is to learn one of the proper techniques. You can find several on YouTube, and just start practicing slowly, 10 minutes a day. Soon it will be faster than you ever thought possible.

Ask your friend to go to the range with you so you can show him what a speed loader is.
tet4 is offline  
Old January 10, 2013, 10:00 AM   #24
NoirFan
Member
 
Join Date: July 25, 2006
Posts: 80
With an HKS speedloader, about 4-5 seconds if we're including ejecting the empty cases. Feeding them in two by two, about 8-9 seconds.
NoirFan is offline  
Old January 12, 2013, 08:35 AM   #25
bds32
Senior Member
 
Join Date: August 5, 2006
Location: Texas
Posts: 481
Quote:
I take way too long to reload my J-Frame, maybe 15 seconds, or more, so I carry a backup gun and can do a NY reload in maybe 2-3 seconds.
In a self defense situation, you might have that reload stuffed in a pocket. So, if you have to dig around, I can see this taking some time (15 seconds seems too long to me). However, as they say, "a man has got to know his limitations." That is why your plan B is very sound advice.
bds32 is offline  
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:58 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
This site and contents, including all posts, Copyright © 1998-2014 S.W.A.T. Magazine
Copyright Complaints: Please direct DMCA Takedown Notices to the registered agent: thefiringline.com
Contact Us
Page generated in 0.13698 seconds with 9 queries