Snetder's?

kaylorinhi · January 22, 2011, 09:38 PM

A friend of mine's dad has a 12g SxS hammerless, thumblatch, break-open, auto-eject? The entire marking on it reads "Snetder's Patent Baltimore MD"written on the center rib. Any Info would be much appreciated.

Mike

PetahW · January 23, 2011, 02:11 PM

It's most likely "sneider", and not "snetder" - so you might want to look more closely at the marking.

I found three references (really four) to the name Sneider.

The first two are to the name Sneider.
They are Charles E. Snieder and Charles W. Sneider.
These relate to Sneider Arms Co, a Baltimore,MD maker in 1890 and later; and another: Clark & Sneider - also a gun maker in Baltimore from 1872 to 1882.
I don't believe the second one is the one you are looking for.

There is one more reference to Sneiders Patent, which says: " 'Clark & Sneider' and 'C.E. & C.W. Sneider' was used by Sneider Arms 1890 and later."

A search of US Patent Office records might deliver additional details.
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kaylorinhi · January 25, 2011, 02:46 PM

thanks you for the gouge! As for the letter itself, I have not seen the gun in person. It is in MD and belongs to a friends Dad. The only pictures I have are third hand cell-phone pics.! this does Give us a better starting point!

Mike

**James K** · January 26, 2011, 12:55 AM

You might get photos of the bottom of the barrels at the breech and of the water table (the receiver part where the barrels close down) and look for proof marks, specifically Belgian. Many small American "gun makers" (and some large ones) were merely retailers for Belgium-made guns.

Jim

mdhippy · July 11, 2011, 02:18 PM

I have one of these guns
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**James K** · July 11, 2011, 09:53 PM

Well. Unless the maker goofed, that "T" is a "T" and not an "I".

Just for fun, I ran the Baltimore directory and didn't come up with any Snetder or Sneider (in that spelling) currently in the city.

Jim

January 22, 2011, 09:38 PM	#1
kaylorinhi Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2010 Location: The brown eye of america Posts: 460	Snetder's? A friend of mine's dad has a 12g SxS hammerless, thumblatch, break-open, auto-eject? The entire marking on it reads "Snetder's Patent Baltimore MD"written on the center rib. Any Info would be much appreciated. Mike __________________ Buy your guns by Yardline, Not Looks.

January 25, 2011, 02:46 PM	#3
kaylorinhi Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2010 Location: The brown eye of america Posts: 460	thanks you for the gouge! As for the letter itself, I have not seen the gun in person. It is in MD and belongs to a friends Dad. The only pictures I have are third hand cell-phone pics.! this does Give us a better starting point! Mike __________________ Buy your guns by Yardline, Not Looks.

January 26, 2011, 12:55 AM	#4
James K Staff Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 16,408	You might get photos of the bottom of the barrels at the breech and of the water table (the receiver part where the barrels close down) and look for proof marks, specifically Belgian. Many small American "gun makers" (and some large ones) were merely retailers for Belgium-made guns. Jim __________________ Jim K

July 11, 2011, 09:53 PM	#6
James K Staff Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 16,408	Well. Unless the maker goofed, that "T" is a "T" and not an "I". Just for fun, I ran the Baltimore directory and didn't come up with any Snetder or Sneider (in that spelling) currently in the city. Jim __________________ Jim K

January 23, 2011, 02:11 PM	#2
PetahW Senior Member Join Date: September 19, 2008 Posts: 3,275	It's most likely "sneider", and not "snetder" - so you might want to look more closely at the marking. I found three references (really four) to the name Sneider. The first two are to the name Sneider. They are Charles E. Snieder and Charles W. Sneider. These relate to Sneider Arms Co, a Baltimore,MD maker in 1890 and later; and another: Clark & Sneider - also a gun maker in Baltimore from 1872 to 1882. I don't believe the second one is the one you are looking for. There is one more reference to Sneiders Patent, which says: " 'Clark & Sneider' and 'C.E. & C.W. Sneider' was used by Sneider Arms 1890 and later." A search of US Patent Office records might deliver additional details. .