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Old July 17, 2001, 11:17 AM   #1
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Ithaca Auto Burglar back in production

I have long covetted one of these: a production short-barreled double shotgun. I always wondered why no class-3 dealer was making them... but then I found this:

http://www.dennysguns.com/denny/burglar.html

I'm not claiming it's practical, just very, very cool.

Standard disclaimer: I'm not making any money by mentioning this project, I just thought some folks would like to know. I especially like the fact that they offer either a tritium or genuine ivory bead.
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Old July 17, 2001, 11:23 AM   #2
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Nice looker, but can this be legal? It looks like a sawed off shotgun with fewer than the legal-minimum 18 inches of length...
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Old July 17, 2001, 01:12 PM   #3
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One note, the original Auto Burglar had a more vertical handle. Control of this would be difficult. Does look like a neat toy.

And the model is certainly well prepared,a double
barreled 20 ga and a pair of 38s!!
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Old July 17, 2001, 02:45 PM   #4
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You mean there was a gun in the picture, too? Seriously, the original had a saw handle and came in 20 gauge also. Pretty cool
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Old September 22, 2009, 10:15 PM   #5
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Denny's Auto Burglar shotguns

I own one of these. I bought it from Denny in 2000 +/-

It is a GREAT gun.

I shoot sporting clays, trap and skeet with it.
I especially enjoy shooting sporting clays with it. I usually hit about 10 out of 50. But considering this is a 9 inch unimproved barrel ... I'm not ashamed of those results.
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Old September 22, 2009, 10:34 PM   #6
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Holy necropost, Batman!
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Old September 22, 2009, 11:34 PM   #7
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8 years out of left field!!!
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Old September 22, 2009, 11:45 PM   #8
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Now link shows placeholder page, lost domain name?
Duh, didn't look at the date - holy resurrected thread, Batman!
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Old January 25, 2011, 03:42 PM   #9
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I found the following posted at rec.guns, regarding Taurus's new 28 gauge revolver:
Quote:
Been reading more on this at the NFAOA forum and the BATFE site.
Seems the Raging Judge 28 ga may be deemed "not illegal" because its
interesting collection of negative attributes:

It's not an AOW because is has a rifled bore.

It's not a DD because it uses shotshells for which a sporting use
exemption is granted.

It's not an SBS because it has no buttstock.

It's not an NFA "weapon made from a shotgun" because it was
manufactured as a pistol with a rifled bore.

It's not even a shotgun as defined under the GCA because "A firearm
with a pistol grip in lieu of the shoulder stock is
not designed to be fired from the shoulder and, therefore, is not a
shotgun." http://www.atf.gov/publications/news...er-2009-11.pdf
So does this mean someone could reproduce the 20 ga. Auto Burglar without a tax stamp if they just rifled the barrels? Say, a 1:38" twist (same as some .44 Magnums) so it won't spin a shot load into a donut?
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Old January 25, 2011, 04:16 PM   #10
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Nope... bore is limited to 1/2 inch .50 or less and 20 is larger than half inch.

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Old January 25, 2011, 04:20 PM   #11
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So is 28 gauge.
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Old January 25, 2011, 04:55 PM   #12
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There won't be one of these anytime soon...



http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=437216

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