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Old January 8, 2011, 06:55 PM   #1
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Snub nose .357

I'm looking to buy a .357 soon and am looking at around a 2 1/2" barrel. I don't know if this is considered snub nosed, but I would like to know what people think is a quality .357. I'm currently looking ar the ruger SP 101 and would like to know of other quality ones. Also would like to know good self defense ammo for .357 mag. Thanks.
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Old January 8, 2011, 07:09 PM   #2
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smith & wesson and ruger are the only good snubs currently made. I have an sp101 and while it's a bit heavy I have no regrets. I may buy a .357 LCR soon.
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Old January 8, 2011, 07:15 PM   #3
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Just picked up a smith model 360 (scandium frame/steel cylinder) chambered in 357 mag. I shot 357 a couple of times for the novelty, but it is way harsh on your hands. I practice and carry 38+p.

As far as the gun goes, its great. better than average accuracy from a snub nose, very light, and very reliable.

Looking back, I paid about 50 bucks more for the 357 option that I will most likely never use. If I were to do it again, the same exact gun, chambered in 38 special and 50 bucks cheaper would be the way to go!

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Old January 8, 2011, 07:20 PM   #4
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Yes a 2 1/2" barrel is considered a snub nose. I would look at the S&W Model 686 if it is to be an all around gun. It can be had with a 2 1/2" barrel and has adjustable sights. You can get it as a 6 shot or a 7 shot.
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Old January 8, 2011, 08:54 PM   #5
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Big fan of the Corbon .357 110gr.

http://www.shopcorbon.com/Self-Defen...20/100/Product

It works just fine out of my SP101 - doesn't kick much, and blows things up real nice . I am a fan.

Between a S&W, Ruger or a Taurus - I picked the Ruger. I wouldn't have if I was going to carry regularly though.
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Old January 8, 2011, 09:03 PM   #6
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I've never understood why people buy snub's in 357 magnum. The flash, recoil, and noise would seem pretty nasty.
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Old January 8, 2011, 09:12 PM   #7
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I'm looking at the Taurus 605 right now. I had the SP101 and it was ok. Sold it for something else. I do not see this as a range gun, but I would like to have a small revolver in the mix.

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Old January 8, 2011, 09:16 PM   #8
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I was in your position a while back. I bought an SP101. I love it. The only thing I would do different is to get the 2" barrel. I carry in the appendix position and the extra inch pokes me when I squat and sometimes when I set. The weight is no biggie and nice when shooting. I will say I have only shot 158 jsp in 357 and they were "stout"
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Old January 8, 2011, 09:21 PM   #9
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I've never understood why people buy snub's in 357 magnum. The flash, recoil, and noise would seem pretty nasty.
Muzzle flash and noise are definitely more noticeable in a serious way. This old guy with arthritis notices recoil more, though it's a smaller difference than many seem to believe. In general, the shorter the barrel, the more velocity is lost, and for the vast majority of shooters, the shorter the sight radius, the less accuracy.

All that said™, this old guy with arthritis and recurrent back troubles finds the lighter weight an improvement well worth the bother, and if I had to be concerned about concealment, I doubt I'd carry bigger calibers than .357 magnum very often.

The best of my snub-nosed .357 magnum revolvers are Pythons with 2.5-inch barrels—but brace yourself for sticker shock if you start shopping for one.
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Old January 8, 2011, 09:21 PM   #10
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shafter

I've never understood why people buy snub's in 357 magnum. The flash, recoil, and noise would seem pretty nasty.

My wife carries a 3" ladysmith 60, but loads .38 glasers, the reason:

Heavier gun gives a lighter recoil
It fits in her gun/handbag or jacket pocket
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Old January 9, 2011, 07:53 AM   #11
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That makes sense about the heavier gun having less recoil with 38's. I bet the Sp101 is pretty mild with 38's.
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Old January 9, 2011, 08:00 AM   #12
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Consider a used S&W model 13 with a 3" bbl. Most folks don't need adj. sights on a snub, and the S&W 13 3" is a classic .357 Snub, the old FBI gun. Mine, loaded w/ .38 wadcutters, is a perfect trail / small game gun, small and accurate as hell. And with 125 grain .357 Mags, is like a fistfull of fire and brimstone.
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Old January 9, 2011, 08:29 AM   #13
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I've never understood why people buy snub's in 357 magnum. The flash, recoil, and noise would seem pretty nasty.
Pro's
- Ability to use both .357 and .38 spl.
- .357, while toned down quite a bit in the shorter barrel, is still a very formitable round.
- .357 comes in such a wide array of bullet styles and configurations it makes it an honest "one gun for all".
- Snubs offer very little for an opponent to "grab on to" in HTH situations. The makes them good for both carry and for home defense.
- revolver reliablilty - caliber unimportant
- revolver "superiority". By that I mean an individuals personal ability w/a revolver is above that of the person's ability w/another type of action.
(not meanig to come across as a braggert - but - I'm good w/a semi auto. I'm so far beyond "good" w/a D/A Model 19 it's unsettling to most people)

Cons.
- noise and flash and recoil.
- performance "hit" from shorter tube.
- .357 magnum. (IMHO & only because I have a smallish .44mag.(4" barrel))
If I'm going to pay the penalties, I prefer to pay them w/a more substancial caliber like the .44.
- peformance is not much better in the short tube than a 9mm +P
- (part 2) a 9mm +P usually carried more rounds on board ( if such a thing katters to you).

This old guy w/arthur-itis and a bad case of the squints anymore, weighed the pros and cons and went w/a a 9mm.
25/30 years ago, no question it would have been a .357mag. snub.
& only becasue the .44mag carried the "dirty Harry" stigmatism.
Now that far more powerful rounds have made it main stream, the .44DH factor has become a lot less.
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Old January 9, 2011, 08:35 AM   #14
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Snub .357magnum DA/DAO revolvers...

My 1st handgun in late 1993 was a NIB Ruger SP101 2.25" barrel .357 DA-only snub. I paid about $332.00
The Ruger LCR or 2.25" model SP101 .357magnum would be a good choice.
If you picked a SP101 you may want to look at a 3.16" barrel. Gun writer/use of force trainer Massad Ayoob & a few others have documented the improved ballistics with the longer stainless barrel. If the revolver is for deep concealment or use as a BUG a 2.25" format may be better but with the heavy SP101 the 3.16" design makes more sense.

The S&W snubs(with no "lawyer locks" ) could work but Im impressed more by the new ported S&W .327Federal model.
As for magnum snub loads, I'd look into the Speer Gold Dot 110gr short barrel load or maybe the well made Remington Golden Saber 110gr .357magnum JHP. The 125gr JHP was a long proven fight ender(a documented one shot rating of 94-96% based on over 500 LE shootings). It's a powerful round in a .357 snub. A Corbon Glaser Safety Slug or a new Hornady Critical Defense round in .357magnum. Recoil & flash may be reduced too.
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Old January 9, 2011, 09:18 AM   #15
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If you can manage a 1/2" more, check out the S&W Model 60-15 Pro Series. Mine has the best trigger I've come across in a new revolver. .357 out of this one is not bad to shoot, and that's coming from someone who doesn't care for it too much out of a Ruger SP101 with the short barrel. Not sure if the barrel length makes the difference or if it's something else, but if I were going to carry a revolver this would be the one.



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Old January 9, 2011, 09:31 AM   #16
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Snub nose

Taurus makes very good 357s.
Had a 1 1/2 to 2 in barrel on the one I owned before.
The are very accurate & The recoil did not bother me at all with 357 loads in it.
Yes they are loud but all revolvers are loud.
I used all different grains with no noticable difference.
I am looking at another Taurus 357 as well to carry now.
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Old January 9, 2011, 10:26 AM   #17
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i have a s&w 60-9. it carry's good and hits hard. out standing trigger. the only s&w i own with a nicer trigger is my 681. if i were you I'd take a hard look at a s&w j frame 60-15. just like the one shanzlik posted.
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Old January 9, 2011, 10:46 AM   #18
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I just purchased a new Ruger LCR in .357 and yes it's a handfull with mag loads but it's manageable. I was stooting full house mags from approx 15yds and was keeping about 4" groups off hand. I switched to .38s and only did slightly better. Biggest difference was the time between shots. The mags definately took more tiime between shots to reaquire the target than the .38s did.
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Old January 9, 2011, 10:49 AM   #19
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smith & wesson and ruger are the only good snubs currently made.
That is just your opinion, many others will not agree.
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Old January 9, 2011, 10:52 AM   #20
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Don't forget Taurus! In my humble opinion they make some great snubs for the money!
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Old January 9, 2011, 11:29 AM   #21
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I love my Smith and Wesson 640. 100% Stainless steel adds enough mass to allow shooting 357s with out lots of pain if you have decent grips.

It is hammerless so no worries about getting it snagged
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Old January 9, 2011, 11:58 AM   #22
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I have a S&W 60-14, stanless 2 1/8 barrel 5 rounds. I'ts a bit heavier than some of the other J-frames but not bad to cc.

Lots of good advice in this thread so mine might not add much but I ended up using +P .38 Special to carry after I had hand surgery and don't know if I'll go back to .357 yet. I can get an accurate 2nd shot off easier with the .38.

I handled a 60-15 Pro a while back and i'ts a fine pistol. If you don't care about cc you might want a larger frame in general.

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Old January 9, 2011, 12:11 PM   #23
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Current S&W models are fine, yes, but pricey. Ruger's SP101 is a very good little revolver and somewhat more affordable. I owned a Taurus 605 in stainless that was a very nice, handy little carry gun. Currently own a Rossi 462:

http://www.rossiusa.com/product-deta...adcrumbseries=

6 shots, stainless, comfortable grips from the factory and very affordable.
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Old January 9, 2011, 04:27 PM   #24
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I got a S and W 66-3 and its a fabulous gun. Paid (stole) it off the seller who advertised it for $225 a couple of years ago
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Old January 9, 2011, 04:41 PM   #25
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I've got an older (bought new in '95) Taurus model 66 w/a 3" barrel that is very nice 'n very accurate. Even with hot 125s, it's easy to shoot well. Dunno if I'd buy a newer Taurus (too many Taurus complaints on the 'net for me to feel comfortable).

3" GP100 would be an excellent choice, as well, if the smaller size of the SP101 isn't critical. That said, the extra heft of the SP101 will take some of the edge off the recoil & is a very nice pistol.
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