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Old January 25, 2016, 04:44 AM   #1
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glock 34 in ipsc

apologies if this is a stupid question but i'm confused as to why this model is apparently so popular.

I can understand it being popular in production as prod is always scored minor but the 34 is specifically excluded from this division.

The sight radius would be nice in standard but being 9mm you'd still be limited to minor whilst others would be shooting in major.

I suspect there's something very obvious that i'm missing as it does appear to be a very popular gun.
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Old January 25, 2016, 08:05 AM   #2
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IPSC or USPSA? Glock 34 is on the approved list for the U.S.

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Old January 25, 2016, 08:54 AM   #3
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From his alias, I suspect the OP really meant IPSC.

I don't understand, either, and not just IPSC or just Glock 34.
There seem to be a lot of people shooting Limited Minor these days when they don't have to. Are they so accurate that the lighter recoil is worth it? Or are they so cheap they won't buy or load .40 or .45?
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Old January 25, 2016, 10:05 AM   #4
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Maybe USPSA/IPSC needs to go back to just two divisions - Open and Not Open, (Limited), with Major and Minor scoring in each, like it used to was.
Before it was decided to complicate things with all these divisions to level the playing field, run whatcha' brung worked just fine didn't it?
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Old January 25, 2016, 10:31 AM   #5
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In those days, there was less choice about what to bring.
I think L10 came about when Sedro Wooley got worried that they might be connected with sales of "spare parts" for full capacity magazines during the AWB of 1994-2004.
Production seems to have been meant to offer an economical division in response to IDPA SSP.
Revolver and Single Stack are to provide a home for those obsolete guns.
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Old January 25, 2016, 11:21 AM   #6
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In the US, a number of states have magazine limits. Limited 10 and Production (in USPSA) support them, and Production adds a lower cost of entry.

And I missed the OP's mention of "standard", so looks like IPSC.

The G34 and Limited minor are popular in the US because of 3-gun, where the most popular division in most matches allows what is basically a Limited Minor pistol. So, just one pistol for both 3-gun and USPSA.
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Old January 25, 2016, 11:31 AM   #7
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Revolver and Single Stack are to provide a home for those obsolete guns.
I had to smile as I read this sentence, and recall a man stranger who shot at our IDPA match one time (mercifully) with a 4" S&W M19, and beat EVERYONE, including a soon-to-be State-level competitor, using an enhanced CZ-75. Seems he was just in town, visiting in-laws, when he'd heard about the local match. We also learned he'd just been medically retired from from DOJ.

Obsolete? I sorta doubt it. It comes back to the deciding factor more often being the man, not the weapon.
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Old January 25, 2016, 01:01 PM   #8
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CZ's and Glock's about the same for USPSA. The reason Glocks don't do well in Australia for IPSC is because they shoot high and to the right, in the US, they shoot low and left. A Glock is just a hammer, they pretty much run forever, and after you pull the trigger 100,000 times, it will seem normal.
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Old January 25, 2016, 04:22 PM   #9
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Yes I meant IPSC which is why I wrote IPSC rather than USPSA.
Australia is a little special as our calibre limits generally restrict us to minor regardless of division (except for one state at the moment.)
But even in countries not limited by this the 34 seemed overly popular. I thought I was missing something but apparently not.

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Old January 26, 2016, 10:51 AM   #10
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95% of targets in competition are 3-15 yards, so personally I don't see where the G34 does anything better the a G17, little more sight radius, but a little slower cycling time. Again for USPSA Production and IPSC Standard, the 9mm is the ticket. Plus I know you guys down under are big on heavy 9mm bullets, heard some guys are running 175 grains.
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